[s-cars] Worthy projects (was Alum..was UrS $)

[djdawson2 at aol.com]

Yeah... SB is in my future, and maybe even this year.  Work may be involving significantly less travel very soon.  In which case I could actually attend SB for more than 4 hours.
 
If 930 power is cheap... yeah, I need to hear some real stories.  I've always loved that car.
 
OK... I'll go drive a damned Volvo.  I'm having a hard time with the looks.  But then again, a 5000 or early 200 was no looker either... but to own one was to love one.
 
MP was a development tool.  Most of those I chat with regularly about this hobby were aware that I veiwed playing with MP as just a practical way for trying out engine configurations that I would one day use in UrQ projects.  AND... since MP was on the road so much, it was a reliability test as well.  However, I was actually amazed at the results.  Yep... she's short on torque.  But with a "sweet spot" that's 4500rpm wide, that doesn't matter too much on the open road.  I was also surprised at the reliability.  All dyno jokes aside... we're talking about a "high" output 2.2 that starts, runs, and is as reliable as a showroom creampuff.
 
To me, the ultimate weakness to pushing MP "too far" is the driveline.  Even the CRB doesn't hold up too well when confronted with 475 ft/lbs of torque... and 4000lbs of inertia to overcome.  To me, that marks the end of the exercise.  I can't bring myself to return to the dragstrip for testing after exploding a rear diff.
 
BUT... I learned a lot.  As a result, my UrQ will undoubtably be just as reliable, and capable of mid 11 second performance.  That WILL be fun.
 
Dave
 
 
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From: QSHIPQ at aol.com
To: Djdawson2 at aol.com; pkrasusky at ups.com; s-car-list at audifans.com
Sent: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: [s-cars] Worthy projects (was Alum..was UrS $)


Porsche power is cheap Dave, especially for a DIY.  Intercooler, exhaust and turbo puts 450down at the wheels without even cracking the case...  Many have found (fellow big dog I5 guy Hackl mit 911S and 911T, former LT1Q owner Dupree mit C4, and a former big dog S customer of mine - 930T) that the porsche stuff is cheap compared to the S car/audi performance toys.  If you need help here, I'm sure a well placed dinner with Hackl will get you more information that you care to know.
 
I honestly don't think many people "spend time at the track" Dave.  I spend a lot of time talking people out of mods that are track only on their daily driver.  It loses the appeal of what makes the quattro a great road car, IMO/E.  
 
The biggest issue I see with MP?  She's just got too small a motor for her heft.  Torque rules street car performance in my perspective.  Getting that eludes a 2.2 motor on the S (and I had some seat time in the green garbage can when I saw her last).  It's possible with a full tilt big block S car ala Hap.  But I see displacement as what makes the eye wander from the S.  Drive that S60R Dave, put up a report.  I suspect the next one down the pike will be watching what BMW does with that lovely dual turbo I6.
 
I might poke a bit and say the 900R is of the same flavor.  Drive a big block oversquare torque monster, where 85% of torque hits at 3000rpm and goes to redline during a 10.05 quarter, you grit your teeth less doing what comes naturally to some of the other toys on the pad....
 
All that said, it's been great watchin you and mike and Hap, do all this dolling up of miss piggy.  Doesn't change the reality, that you will be moving on.  The only question I have, is how much have you been paying attention to what's around you.  I look forward to the reads, rides, stories, and continued arm twisting to get you to actually run steamboat.
 
Cheers
 
SJ
 
 
In a message dated 4/23/2007 10:15:39 A.M. Central Standard Time, Djdawson2 writes:
Well, seems like the "Mutual Admiration Society" has come to order.  Kidding of course... but in essence, the fun of this list... and the reason *other* lists just look unacceptable.
 
MP's days *have* come and gone... by and large.  But I've got to say that she's ruined me, to an extent.  I used to lust after various cars, usually for their unique performance/looks/capabilities.  After MP, I find myself having trouble getting very fired up over many cars.  Twice in the past year I've flown to purchase a 930 turbo.  I've come home empty handed because they weren't as advertised.  Neither time did I feel much disappointment, except for the wasted time/money for travel.  Why???  Because I look at the overall package and inevitably end up thinking "hey... this thing is slow compared to MP."  And then you start to research what it would take to make the 930 fast, and you're talking cubic dollars... even for a DIY.
 
Granted, they are in a different handling league... but try and remember *my* requirements.  I don't spend time at the track... and most of my driving is on open roads without tight corners.  And what will a wide-bodied Porsche do to my driving record... simply because it will catch John Law's eye?
 
So my mind wanders back to "what can I plug an AAN into?"  All 'cause of MP.
 
Dave
 






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