[s-cars] Worthy projects (was Alum..was UrS $)

[LL - NY]

Calvin,

To second the comments of Taka on the Subies, I'd have to agree with you on
the interior fit and finish, but your comments on the AWD are unfounded. As
a Subie (okay, Saabaru) owner, I'd have to say the car is somewhat looser
(not as stable) than any of my Audi's in the heavy stuff, but it's still
pretty decent. In the big winter dump of 2/14 of this year, they chose not
to plow around here in God's country. I literally plowed through 10 - 11" of
broken up, but unplowed snow with the car for close to 7 miles. You did have
to stay on top of things (as in the rear) in a manner that I wouldn't have
had to have done with the UrS (so, no, I couldn't relax on the drive, in the
UrS it'd been easier) but it defintely had no problems going. This was on
Nok RSi's.

Scargo

On 4/24/07, calvinlc at earthlink.net <calvinlc at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> Volvo problem #1 - All Wheel Drive system sucks compared to Audi's....I
> have
> driven the V70R, in both it's current and predecessor version only
> available
> with the slushbox...both AWDs were on par with the standard old mitsu
> viscous coupling stuff....same cars I drove around during our December
> snowstorms here in Denver because they were stuck.
>
> Volvo problem #2 - the cars keep shrinking!  The V70R used to be very much
> on par with a Urs6 avant...not anymore, now it's more like the B5 S4...not
> quite that small but not much bigger.  I know, for some that may be
> attractive as it improves the handling, but for those of us who like to
> carry adult passengers in the back without them sucking knee all the way
> to
> the destination it kind of stinks.
>
> Volvo problem #3 - The dealerships, at least in Denver, make you think
> that
> you are test driving a Lamborghini with the way they treat their beloved R
> cars....I have come close to telling them "The damn thing costs less than
> a
> Yukon, give me the keys snob boy; besides the thing isn't nearly as fast
> as
> the cars I already own."
>
> the Volvo R cars come close to doing all things "piglike," but still fall
> short on the aforementioned points 1 & 2.  The Subaru B-specs come close
> as
> well, but still fall short in AWD capability and interior fit and finish.
>
> --Calvin
>
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> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Worthy projects (was Alum..was UrS $)
>
>
>
> Hey, I'm used to that, my GLH turbo couldn't turn a U'ey well, cost me a
> ticket trying it in Chicago and a couple of autox trophies on
> courses  laid
> out
> by CRX CSP drivers.    A known problem with transverse motors  with
> monster
> rubber on them.  I learned to use the handbrake better.   I might argue he
> may be
> just turning around to see where you went to?
>
> I'd rather see a full test drive report.  Turning radius so  noted.
>
> ;)
>
> SJ
>
>
> In a message dated 4/23/2007 10:40:36 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> audiurs4 at mailforce.net writes:
>
> Check  out the turning radius on the Volvo S60R. A friend of mine has one
> and he  regrets buying it for this alone.  It's very annoying.  It's hard
> to park in between two cars in a parking lot or ramp and forget about
> making a u-turn on anything less than a 6 lane divided road without
> using reverse. Even then it would be tight.  Even my battleship of a
> URS4 can u-turn at most  intersections.
>
> JR
>
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