[s-cars] Your TT posting
QSHIPQ at aol.com
QSHIPQ at aol.com
Tue Apr 24 23:07:20 EDT 2007
As I suggested to LL, you might try running different rubber front and rear,
that's legal. The race stuff up front and something less sticky rear. Did
this on the GLH turbo with great success. I'd also seriously consider a rear
bar delete and give it a try. When I do chassis tuning, I use a ganalyst or
a gtech pro meter and a IR temp guage. Also, make ALL the air going to the
intercooler and radiator go thru it. I have an SAE paper that shows
something like 30% improvement doing nothing else to the radiator but sealing leaks.
I actually enjoy the stock rules myself, it really makes you pay attention
to things you'd otherwise just dial the boost up to overcome.
Have you tried getting the haldex to just lock? Remember that a locked
center has ideal brake force distribution and torque follows weight distribution
and turning radius both.
I think you have room to play, and be within the rules without resorting to
50psi tire pressure.
SJ
In a message dated 4/24/2007 11:51:18 A.M. Central Standard Time,
ccohen5 at compuserve.com writes:
You are right of course, running these types of pressures is obscene but the
T3 rules allow no changes in suspension whatsoever other than shocks and
this car was designed to be a pig on the track. So it puts a premium on driving
skill and I feel that tire pressures like this are so unusual because just
because no one races pigs deliberately so putting a premium on the ability to
tweak. The RX8 guys are enjoying the spin off technologies from the Mazda
pro drivers in the Grand Am and their cars keep getting faster. AFAIK there
is almost no one outside the UK that is racing the TT in 1.8 form under rules
that allow for a downflow of useful data like this. I consider DTM
irrelevant to what I am doing. There is one guy in the UK who races a modified 1.8T
TT but he can do a lot more than we can including aerodynamics such as
diffusers, coil overs, FMIC etc. So these cars are pigs and all the issues that all
you S-Car guys have with too much weight cannot easily be offset as
you can by more HP. We have tweaked the Haldex to give us a little more
rear split and we run 17X7.5 in the rears and 18X8 wheels upfront. Our spec
weight is 3340 which we struggled to get to with the cage, cooling gear and the
very heavy passenger seat. We are allowed free rein with the chip software
but there are limits as to what you can get from the stock turbo -I/C and
though we often see 22 lbs or more when cold, it quickly falls to 18 lbs (nominal
boost) mid race.
We also had cooling problems in all events last year. I asked about this on
the Audiworld site and had no response nor was there anything significant in
the archives. So I either had to conclude that TT owners just do not drive
their cars very hard being too cool for that - or there was something wrong
coincidentally with both our 2003 cars. We applied and got approval from SCCA
to change to the 3.2 radiator as it has a larger capacity and so far this
year, no sign of overheating. And I am talking about real hot, one needle
width from the H peg with the ECL flashing.
As others have noticed, if a turbo goes as happened last year, you have to
remove the front RH suspension to take it out. Not much you can do about that
but having done it twice, once for real and once to look, we have discovered
some short cuts that are not in the Bentley...and then there is the Bentley,
which is vague and also contradictory. Their standard has definitely gone
down since the days of our large paper tomes. It offers 2 different torque
specs for the t/c mounting nuts and differs from the ETKA on whether the t/c
has washers on its mounting bolts.
But its fun and the cool chicks dig the TT much more than any of the other
cars...but then again there is only usually one cool chick at any SCCA race
and she is married to me!!
Colin
----- Original Message -----
From: QSHIPQ at aol.com
To: larrycleung at gmail.com ; ccohen5 at compuserve.com
Cc: wenoland at pacbell.net ; s-car-list at audifans.com
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: [s-cars] Your TT posting
IME with autox, if you need to run more than 42 in the front or rear, time
to change something else. On the TT I'd look at camber settings before I'd
exceed 42. The biggest problem IMO, is you lose a lot of the tire shape when
you exceed 42psi. 50psi is a lot of pressure for any DOT or non DOT rubber.
My .02
SJ
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