[s-cars] power steering trouble

djdawson2 at aol.com djdawson2 at aol.com
Wed Aug 22 21:03:30 EDT 2007


Interesting... because ATF is what the early Audis used for steering fluid.? What gives?



Dave


-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Golledge <petergolledge at gmail.com>
To: 'brian hoeft' <qweblog at gmail.com>; djdawson2 at aol.com
Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
Sent: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 6:00 pm
Subject: RE: [s-cars] power steering trouble




Ummm ATF kills Hydraulic systems.... I'd flush it ASAP.  I see many, many
Audis at the boneyards in CO which are there only because ATF killed the
Rack/Pump/Hoses.

John Deere/CAT dealers have Mineral Hyd oil FYI. 

-----Original Message-----
From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com
[mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of brian hoeft
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 5:31 PM
To: djdawson2 at aol.com
Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
Subject: Re: [s-cars] power steering trouble

it must be the season for hydraulic component issues.

youre the third or fourth lister ive seen mentioning troubles in a couple
weeks.

i myself just got back from a cross country trip and sprung a hydraulik leak
and not only couldnt find pentosin in Missouri and Kansas but was leaking
too much to pay $15 a quart.

sooo, i bought a $9 gallon of ATF that proved just fine and has lasted a few
thousand miles with a quart or so left.

but,, shame on me for dripping a gallon of ATF across middle America..


On 8/22/07, djdawson2 at aol.com <djdawson2 at aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> 1) Impact driver works best.?
> http://www.matcotools.com/Catalog/toolcatalog.jsp?cattype=T&cat=2208&p
> age=3&#28982
>
> 2) Blau sells the plug and o-ring kit
>
> 3) Don't run it low on fluid
>
> 4) 3 and 4 are closely related.? If you ignore #3 now, you'll be 
> asking yourself another question similar to #4 very soon.
>
> Dave
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Fitton <rfitton at vt.edu>
> To: s-car <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> Sent: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 3:40 pm
> Subject: [s-cars] power steering trouble
>
>
>
>
> ...otherwise known as: Help me not pay $360 for a seven-cent o-ring.
>
> So my power steering system has been slowing leaking fluid for several 
> months now.  It wasn't fast enough to worry about it until last 
> weekend.  I was kind of afraid it was the rack, so I kind of did the 
> head in the sand bit for a while.  Finally it started coming out fast 
> enough to take a look.  Rack's fine.  It's coming out of that goofy 
> plug on top of the pump.  You know, the one that looks like a giant 
> phillips-head.  So I used my biggest flat-head and got it off 
> relatively easily (the first time).  Found an o-ring underneath that 
> has clearly failed.  But I didn't have a new o-ring for it and I'm 
> fresh out of CHF-11S, so I stick it back on.  Then I remembered that 
> there's a 24-hour Advance not far from here, so I decided to take the 
> o-ring with me over there to get a new one.
>
> But now I can't get the plug out.  I didn't think I put it in that 
> tight, but it isn't budging.  After about an hour of messing with it, 
> the plug itself isn't looking too healthy.  I've used that screwdriver 
> and a couple of other things.  Even ground down a chisel to a flat 
> tip, but everything just skips out of the head.  I needed the car the 
> next day, so I put some RTV around the edge hoping it would hold 
> fluid.  The RTV held at first, but now it's leaking again and not 
> slowly.  So I'm in desperate need of a new o-ring and preferably a new 
> plug to stick in there.
>
> So my first question: anyone have any clever ideas how to get that 
> little guy out?
>
> Second question: can I get just a new plug from somewhere?  There's a 
> check valve under the plug that sits against it just so, so I can't 
> just stick a random bolt in it.  ETKA doesn't appear to list a 
> separate p/n for it, so officially the only way to get a new plug is with
a new pump.
>
> Third question: if I run out of p/s fluid for a few days before new 
> fluid arrives in the mail, will it damage anything?  The pump isn't 
> such a big deal, but I'll be damned if I'm going to let a bad o-ring 
> on the front of the engine destroy the rack on the firewall.
>
> Fourth question: why didn't I just look at it three months ago, like 
> an intelligent and well-adjusted guy would have done?
>
> -Cheers!
> Mike
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