[s-cars] quattro - no substitute

[LL - NY]

My bad, Me forgots that Viscous centers are not T_rs_ns.

The 9-2X sales lit (when I bought the car) claimed a rear torsen LSD. I've
never noticed
when I've had the car jacked up, whether or not that is true. Guess I missed
my chance
the other day when I rotated my tires.

As for the autos (4EAT) I DO know that it's an electronic LSD. Having driven
a couple of
later 4EATs (ex GF's '03 LGT, yeah, not the fun one) I'd have to say that
they've improved
signicantly over the 13 years of my parent's '90 4EAT Legacy. That car was
soooo ridiculous,
in a very similar fashion to Taka's Haldex experiences. Even in the wet, the
car's traction
was unpredictable. Trying to jump out into heavy traffic would get lots of
front wheelspin, so
you then back off, feeling like getting into said road needed to wait, and
THEN the car's
center diff would grip and start sending the car into the intersection. Sort
of scary and frustrating.
The '03 was much better in that respect, but it still had a sort of two step
action. At least
the MT5 viscous diff doesn't have that problem.

LL - NY

On 2/16/07, Theodore Chen <tedebearp at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> you sure about that?
>
> i don't think the 9-2X gets a torsen differential.
>
> http://www.caranddriver.com/roadtests/8196/2005-saab-9-2x-aero-page4.html
> DRIVETRAIN
> Transmission: 5-speed manual
> Final-drive ratio: 3.90:1, limited slip
> 4-wheel-drive system: full time with a viscous limited-slip center
> differential
>
> also, my brother's car is an automatic.  i don't know about the WRX,
> but other subaru automatics get a computer controlled clutch LSD center
> differential.
>
> http://www.subaruspecialists.com/mainframe/AllWheelDrive.html
>
> a little surfing indicates the STi and legacy spec. B have torsen
> _rear_ differentials, but i can't find any other subies with torsens at
> all.  none have torsen centers.
>
> -teddy
>
> --- LL - NY <larrycleung at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Most MT Subaru's have Torsen centers. Auto box has some electronic
> > clutch pack centers, which have improved over the years, but it still
> > tends towards freewheeling the rears to "improve" fuel economy.
> >
> > LL - NY
> >
> > On 2/15/07, calvinlc at earthlink.net <calvinlc at earthlink.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yeah, except the Pilot's AWD sucks as well (Borg Warner Clutchpak
> System).
> > > I can't find it at the moment but somewhere I read a very hilarious
> > > article
> > > about a guy in a Pathfinder having to pull his sister out near Lake
> Tahoe
> > > in
> > > her Pilot.  Of course the Pathfinder is one of the only vehicles other
> > > than
> > > Audi to have a Torsen diff.
> > > --Calvin
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com
> > > [mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com]On Behalf Of
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> > > Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 6:47 PM
> > > To: S-CAR-List at audifans.com
> > > Subject: [s-cars] quattro - no substitute
> > >
> > >
> > > You guys are right about that.  After 11 years of pestering the wife
> and
> > > trying to convince her that the 911 is really a practical everyday
> driver,
> > > I
> > > of course had to get to work at 6 am when there were in 6 inches of
> snow
> > > on
> > > the ground.  Never mind the fact that I busted the budget and have to
> wait
> > > until next year for snow tires.  Took me 5 minutes just to get out of
> the
> > > driveway.  Fishtailed it 6 miles before I remembered to take the long
> way
> > > to
> > > avoid a hill.  Had to make 3 attempts and get a head start, blew
> through a
> > > red light and finally made it up the hill.  Parked the car and called
> the
> > > wife to tell her that I made it.  She said - You should have taken my
> car
> > > (Honda Pilot).  What, and never hear the end of it?  Naahhhhh.  The
> 911
> > > did
> > > just fine, just no match for the S6 with snows.
> > >
> > > Stefan
> > > 95 S6 Sedan - sold 3 years ago
> > > 95 S6 Avant - sold 3 months ago
> > > 00 996 (mit neuem Motor)
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