[s-cars] quattro - no substitute

[Taka Mizutani]

I've got electronic center diff, front and rear LSD. The rear might be
Torsen, just is referred as a mechanical LSD,
with no reference to clutch packs.

'05+ got a front "helical" LSD.

WRX have center viscous diff, rear LSD- same as 9-2X Aero.

My source:
http://www.cars101.com/subaru/impreza/wrxsti2004.html



On 2/16/07, LL - NY <larrycleung at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> My bad, Me forgots that Viscous centers are not T_rs_ns.
>
> The 9-2X sales lit (when I bought the car) claimed a rear torsen LSD. I've
> never noticed
> when I've had the car jacked up, whether or not that is true. Guess I
> missed
> my chance
> the other day when I rotated my tires.
>
> As for the autos (4EAT) I DO know that it's an electronic LSD. Having
> driven
> a couple of
> later 4EATs (ex GF's '03 LGT, yeah, not the fun one) I'd have to say that
> they've improved
> signicantly over the 13 years of my parent's '90 4EAT Legacy. That car was
> soooo ridiculous,
> in a very similar fashion to Taka's Haldex experiences. Even in the wet,
> the
> car's traction
> was unpredictable. Trying to jump out into heavy traffic would get lots of
> front wheelspin, so
> you then back off, feeling like getting into said road needed to wait, and
> THEN the car's
> center diff would grip and start sending the car into the intersection.
> Sort
> of scary and frustrating.
> The '03 was much better in that respect, but it still had a sort of two
> step
> action. At least
> the MT5 viscous diff doesn't have that problem.
>
> LL - NY
>
> On 2/16/07, Theodore Chen <tedebearp at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > you sure about that?
> >
> > i don't think the 9-2X gets a torsen differential.
> >
> >
> http://www.caranddriver.com/roadtests/8196/2005-saab-9-2x-aero-page4.html
> > DRIVETRAIN
> > Transmission: 5-speed manual
> > Final-drive ratio: 3.90:1, limited slip
> > 4-wheel-drive system: full time with a viscous limited-slip center
> > differential
> >
> > also, my brother's car is an automatic.  i don't know about the WRX,
> > but other subaru automatics get a computer controlled clutch LSD center
> > differential.
> >
> > http://www.subaruspecialists.com/mainframe/AllWheelDrive.html
> >
> > a little surfing indicates the STi and legacy spec. B have torsen
> > _rear_ differentials, but i can't find any other subies with torsens at
> > all.  none have torsen centers.
> >
> > -teddy
> >
> > --- LL - NY <larrycleung at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Most MT Subaru's have Torsen centers. Auto box has some electronic
> > > clutch pack centers, which have improved over the years, but it still
> > > tends towards freewheeling the rears to "improve" fuel economy.
> > >
> > > LL - NY
> > >
> > > On 2/15/07, calvinlc at earthlink.net <calvinlc at earthlink.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, except the Pilot's AWD sucks as well (Borg Warner Clutchpak
> > System).
> > > > I can't find it at the moment but somewhere I read a very hilarious
> > > > article
> > > > about a guy in a Pathfinder having to pull his sister out near Lake
> > Tahoe
> > > > in
> > > > her Pilot.  Of course the Pathfinder is one of the only vehicles
> other
> > > > than
> > > > Audi to have a Torsen diff.
> > > > --Calvin
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
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> > > >
> > > > You guys are right about that.  After 11 years of pestering the wife
> > and
> > > > trying to convince her that the 911 is really a practical everyday
> > driver,
> > > > I
> > > > of course had to get to work at 6 am when there were in 6 inches of
> > snow
> > > > on
> > > > the ground.  Never mind the fact that I busted the budget and have
> to
> > wait
> > > > until next year for snow tires.  Took me 5 minutes just to get out
> of
> > the
> > > > driveway.  Fishtailed it 6 miles before I remembered to take the
> long
> > way
> > > > to
> > > > avoid a hill.  Had to make 3 attempts and get a head start, blew
> > through a
> > > > red light and finally made it up the hill.  Parked the car and
> called
> > the
> > > > wife to tell her that I made it.  She said - You should have taken
> my
> > car
> > > > (Honda Pilot).  What, and never hear the end of it?  Naahhhhh.  The
> > 911
> > > > did
> > > > just fine, just no match for the S6 with snows.
> > > >
> > > > Stefan
> > > > 95 S6 Sedan - sold 3 years ago
> > > > 95 S6 Avant - sold 3 months ago
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