[s-cars] UPDATE 2 - Help - Can't shift into 1st or 2nd!

Vincent Frégeac s.sikss at gmail.com
Fri Jun 8 15:50:15 EDT 2007


I had the same problem than Fred with same effect. I would add that all
gears become hard, not only 1st and 2nd, but the lowest the harder. So, with
a dragging clutch you shouldn't have an easy 1st and hard 2nd. Another way
to tell if the clutch drags is the car will still move slowly in first with
the clutch pedal depressed.

But with a 1st gear becoming easy once you pushed it hard in, I'd rather
suspect a linkage or tranny problem. AFAIK, clutch is not on the very short
list of self healing parts.




Vincent.

-----Message d'origine-----
De : s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com
[mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com] De la part de JR
Envoyé : 7 juin 2007 01:28
À : Fred Munro
Cc : s-car-list at audifans.com
Objet : [s-cars] UPDATE 2 - Help - Can't shift into 1st or 2nd!

It's funny you should mention this.  I pushed hard and it went into 1st and
now 1st is working fine.  Everything now works but 2nd gear.  2nd is sort of
back.  When I pull very hard down to 2nd I don't feel or hear the click of
it going into gear, but when I let the clutch out I'm in 2nd.  I notice that
when the car is off and I'm not even using the clutch, the gears change
easier than when I start the car and shift with the clutch down.  I noticed
the smell of slipping clutch after a short drive.  Would a clutch that isn't
fully disengaging cause these problems?

JR



Fred Munro wrote:
> Something like this happened to a UrS6 at the Sundridge ice race 
> several years ago. We were running ice drags and the UrS6 got locked 
> in second during one run. We had a heck of a time getting it out of 
> second gear and then it was very difficult to shift first and second 
> (difficult meaning it took tremendous force to get it in or out of 
> gear). All other gears shifted fine. He took it to a shop and the 
> linkage was fine. He kept driving it and it shifted easier and easier
until a few months later it was back to normal.
> We used to kid him that his car had the rare self-healing option. Must 
> have been something in the tranny that didn't like being slammed 
> through the gears at high RPM and high wheelspin. Go figure.
>
> Fred Munro
> '97 S6
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com
> [mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com]On Behalf Of Eric Renneisen
> Sent: June 2, 2007 9:35 PM
> To: 'JR'; s-car-list at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] UPDATE - Help - Can't shift into 1st or 2nd!
>
>
> Nothing looks bad in your pic, but the linkage bits that folks are 
> questioning are in the tunnel.  A lift helps greatly, as does 
> exhaust/heatshield removal.  On mine, I could put my hand on the lever 
> at the tranny and get it into every gear but 1 and 2, so that ruled 
> out the linkage.
>
> I could actually get it into 2nd using the shifter in the car, but it 
> took hurculean effort (needed assistance from my legs).  Also required 
> same force to get out of 2nd.  Never tried it again after that.  I was 
> stunned that the shifter didn't break off in my hand.
>
> Get under the car and check the linkage.  The apikol PDF posted before 
> has some pics that'll help you.  I really hope you find a loose bolt 
> or worn bushing down there...
>
> Eric R.
> '86 urq
> '93 urS
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com
> [mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of 'JR'
> Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 12:19 AM
> To: s-car-list at audifans.com
> Subject: [s-cars] UPDATE - Help - Can't shift into 1st or 2nd!
>
>
> I have more info.  I posted it on the Audiworld Forums so I could 
> include a picture.  Check it out at:
>
> http://forums.audiworld.com/s4s6/msgs/174917.phtml
>
> Thanks,
>
> JR
>
>
> Peter Golledge wrote:
>   
>> JR,
>>
>> I'd check the linkage in trans tunnel.  In my 95 S6 the bolt on the 
>> coupling worked loose.  13mm on an extension can get to it from under 
>> the car.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com 
>> [mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of JR
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 5:55 PM
>> To: s-car-list at audifans.com
>> Subject: [s-cars] Help - Can't shift into 1st or 2nd!
>>
>> It happened all of a sudden with no warning.  Stopped at a light an 
>> then couldn't get the car into 1st or second.  Had to drive from 3rd 
>> gear to limp home.  Reverse, 3rd, 4th and 5th work fine.  I can't 
>> even
>>     
>
>   
>> move the shifter in the positions that 1st and 2nd occupy.  It's like 
>> something is blocking it.  Anyone run into this before?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> JR
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