[s-cars] More S car (scirocco)

Taka Mizutani t44tqtro at gmail.com
Wed Mar 14 11:48:33 EDT 2007


VWs ruled in F Street Prepared, not E, through the '90s at least. Didn't
they get moved again recently, maybe that's what you're thinking about?

GTi is the designation in Europe. All the US-spec cars are GTI. :-P

Kind of like '04 WRX STi and '05 WRX STI.

It doesn't hurt when you can take a 1st gen. Scirocco and drop in a 2L 16v
180hp engine along with a close-ratio 5-spd., 4 wheel discs and crazy-wide
13" wheels with 205 R-compounds on them.

Cars are getting too heavy to be much fun to drive these days- my Miata is a
2200lb. car, maybe less. Even with a relatively weak 116hp, it's fun to
drive, really fun to drive. My 3300lb. STi has 300hp and it's nowhere near
as fun to drive as the Miata. Same goes for the S4- with a 3800+ lb. car,
it's very powerful, very refined and nice, but it's kind of ponderous, not
very fun to drive.


Taka


On 3/14/07, LL - NY <larrycleung at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Perhaps an interesting side note.
>
> My A2 1985 GTi (mit A/C and SR) tipped the scales at Divisionals at 2078
> lbs. My friends similarly equipped Rabbit GTi tipped the scales at 2039
> lbs.
> So, in the years from the early
> Rabbits to the early A2s, the car gained nearly 10% in weight. while
> gaining
> 35% more HP
> (74 HP for a 1.5 liter FI, to 100 HP for a 1.8 liter HT Fuelie) and the
> overall performance remained
> relatively constant (okay, the later cars were "quicker" relatively
> speaking). Although the
> early VAG fwd (all Rabbits, Sciroccos (except 16V) and 8V Golf/GTi/Jetta)
> were classed together in stock and eventually (as ALL older cars do)
> became
> uncompetitive in class, when they were moved to the new ESP class, they
> ruled, until quite recently. Guess there was something to those old WC
> VW's.
>


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