[s-cars] More S car (scirocco)

LL - NY larrycleung at gmail.com
Wed Mar 14 08:31:31 EDT 2007


Perhaps an interesting side note.

My A2 1985 GTi (mit A/C and SR) tipped the scales at Divisionals at 2078
lbs. My friends similarly equipped Rabbit GTi tipped the scales at 2039 lbs.
So, in the years from the early
Rabbits to the early A2s, the car gained nearly 10% in weight. while gaining
35% more HP
(74 HP for a 1.5 liter FI, to 100 HP for a 1.8 liter HT Fuelie) and the
overall performance remained
relatively constant (okay, the later cars were "quicker" relatively
speaking). Although the
early VAG fwd (all Rabbits, Sciroccos (except 16V) and 8V Golf/GTi/Jetta)
were classed together in stock and eventually (as ALL older cars do) became
uncompetitive in class, when they were moved to the new ESP class, they
ruled, until quite recently. Guess there was something to those old WC VW's.


On 3/14/07, QSHIPQ at aol.com <QSHIPQ at aol.com> wrote:
>
>  I remember I got my first set of 3011 from 'tire rack' when the boys did
> small engine repair and tire/wheel sales out of a dingy garage in South
> Bend.   That was the first real 'performance' tire, and at 205/60 on 13 x 7
> ATS wheels, that was the cats meow equivelent of 18's today! Trivia:   P-S
> 3011 tire molds were later sold and rebadged the Semperit High Speed Radial.
>
> S version Sciroccos were equipped with awesome recaro seats from the
> factory.  Neuspeed is about the only supplier still around (they had the
> trick triangulated rear stressbar for the A1, and those awesome eurethane
> steering rack bushings, and the dual big bore tbody), Autotech had the trick
> lower subframe bars, GMP was the sole importer of Zender products), and the
> dual downpipe Gillet exhaust was hot, Cibie 195 fogs fit the factory
> spoiler, and Cibie also had the flat rally 5 1/4 round inner highs for
> phenom lighting (with the Z beam outers).  Jetta diesel 5spd was the close
> ratio cheater box, Quaife made a limited slip diff (torsen?), the 16v GTI
> brakes bolted onto the A1 chassis. Setrab made a oil cooler kit, Neuspeed
> made a bolt on -10AN oil cooler/filter boss (still have mine).  After
> restoring 2 x 81 S cars, I always pined after a Vr6 project, but a good S
> body is tough to find these days.  BTW Chad, the 78 without air weighed in
> at 1888lbs from the factory.  With full cage and interior my rally car
> tipped at 2040lbs.
>
> The A1 scirocco was designed by Guigiaro at Ital Design, the A2> designs
> came back to VW in-house.   I bought my 78 from my ProRally codriver when he
> bought a 81s.  At 6'6 he folded up into those recaros just fine.  I remember
> getting Tire Rack's first set of 'euro snow', the Vredestein which I ran on
> the rally car, and the grip was awesome.  So well, that at Sno Drift PR in
> 82 I remember getting a visit from the BFG guys asking about them.
>
> Craig, thanks for the invite, though I'm sure my post count is still high
> on this list in the archives (doh).  I'm a lurker these days, but the
> Scirocco S thread piqued my interest for sure.
>
> SJ
>
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 3/13/2007 7:47:45 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> larrycleung at gmail.com writes:
> yup. 3011
>
> On 3/13/07, Steve Voit <stevevoit at comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >  BINGO
> >
> > Phoenix Stahlflex 3011 or 4011.  They were fantastic!
> >
> >
> >  ------------------------------
> >
> > *From:* LL - NY [mailto:larrycleung at gmail.com]
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 13, 2007 4:41 PM
> > *To:* Steve Voit
> > *Cc:* s-car-list at audifans.com
> > *Subject:* Re: [s-cars] More thoughts from my //Scirocco cloS//et
> >
> >
> >
> > Phoenix Stahflex 4011
> >
> > On 3/13/07, *Steve Voit* <stevevoit at comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > Discussin' //Scirocco mods might bring out the rest of 'em, Paulie.
>
>
>
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