[s-cars] 034 high output coils

[brian hoeft]

thank you all very much, just what i was hoping for.

i myself had to spend hours grinding/re-grinding/bending/etc a special
firewall/clutch bracket(urq) i got from javad which was a considerable
disappointment regarding his reputation and cost.. but nonetheless, once
finished it does the job well and i would suggest them for others.

thats how i learned my lesson and had to ask first.

but we're all gluttons for punishment arent we!?!

i was really hoping to not mount them there for a few reasons, mostly due to
heat. i was considering the wheel well and that would be perfect except for
the evap canister,,  the cowl would be great but theres really no room and
then mount them nicely..

this is where i start thinking myself loopy..  and maybe im naive here but
are there any objections to going all the way to the backseat?

cody, could you send me info on the tools required for what your talking
about?  ive spliced a lot and re-pinned harnesses at sensors,, but not ever
8 gauge wire or cable guy type connections.

and where did you all go with the other harnesses? O2, crank, knock, etc,,

thanks again!






On 5/24/07, manuelsanchez at starpower.net <manuelsanchez at starpower.net> wrote:
>
>
> Brian,
>
> I had many of the same experiences and sentiments Cody has described:
>
> 1. The 034 Bracket did not fit on my strut bar, instead of a new bracket I
> mounted them by using only one of the 2 flanges on the U'shaped piece, thus
> pushing them forward in the engine bay the thickness of the strut tower bar.
> Javad told me they were working on an alternate bracket design, but I have
> not heard or inquired about it in a couple of months(although I did tell him
> I would be interested once they figured something out)
>
> 2. Wires are way long (I have not trimmed them yet as I don't have the
> proper tool)
>
> 3. I managed to get the wires under the coilpack cover as well, I removed
> the black rubber o-ring like gasket the runs around the perimeter of the
> cover as well as that black plastic piece where the wires run out from under
> the cover. I made little spacers, similar to the ones supplied to separate
> the coils from one another, and used those to space all the original bolts
> that were used to hold the OE coils in place. This way I know where all the
> bolts are in case I need to revert back to OEM coils one day, and I was able
> to retain the OE coil spring thingies that help provide tension on the bolts
> that hold the coilpack cover onto the head.
>
> 4. I mounted mine a bit more toward the centerline of the engine bay, as I
> too was worried about the heat from the downpipe, but the heatshield looks
> like a good idea too.
>
> 5. No instructions in my kit either.
>
> I don't have any pics, but I hope to get some together soon.
>
> Kit is a little pricey, but for what the new POS's were going to cost I
> decided to try this route for a little lookey-see. Time will tell.
>
> -Manny
> 95.5 UrS6 Avant (mostly RS2'd)
>
>
> brian hoeft wrote:
> > anyone have experience with them pro or con?
>
> I installed them a few months ago for a friend on his '93 urS4. They
> function great, never any issues and the car is very strong (GT2871 w/ MRC
> eRS2 software and eRS2 injectors).
>
> I did have some issues with fitment and the installation as a whole.
>
> 1) They do not come with any documentation at all, though Javad assured me
> that they were going to fix that.
>
> 2) The bracket didn't fit. I was installing the coils with the 034
> bracket,
> and they simply did not fit at all. The bracket, even without the coils on
> it, hit the fuel lines on the fire wall. I made some brackets for the
> bracket that are welded to the strut tower brace which brought the coils
> forward away from the firewall, and dropped them down a bit. I mounted
> them
> upside down according to Javad, but I liked having the heat sink on top as
> that just seemed more logical to me since heat rises. Javad assured me
> that
> he had never had this fitment issue before and had no idea why they
> wouldn't
> fit in this car.
>
> http://jcforbes.com/jcfpics/tmwricksurs4/CIMG2683
>
> 3) The coils didn't fit on the bracket well. They hit each other solidly.
> I
> had to use washers to space the coils away from each other.
>
> 4) The plug wires supplied were insanely too long. I have supplies to make
> wires, so I simply cut them to size and put new ends on the coil end of
> each
> wires.
>
> http://jcforbes.com/jcfpics/tmwricksurs4/P1010060
> http://jcforbes.com/jcfpics/tmwricksurs4/CIMG2689 - This is the ammount of
> wire removed, the shortest in this photo is about 4 inches long.
> http://jcforbes.com/jcfpics/tmwricksurs4/CIMG2683 - Here you can see how
> much better they fit after cutting.
>
> I also thought that in this position they would be prone to being
> overheated
> by the heat from the turbo and downpipe, so I made a heat shield.
>
> http://jcforbes.com/jcfpics/tmwricksurs4/CIMG2682
>
> I measured the temperatures with an infrared thermometer and saw over 500F
> degrees on the downpipe, 350F on the heat shield, and the coils directly
> behind the shield were at about 120 degrees F.
>
> I was told that the coil wires would not fit under the AAN coil cover, but
> they do. I had to cut the ruber seal at the back where the wires exit the
> cover. They still fit a tad snug, I would recomend grinding the cover just
> a
> little to give some extra room.
>
> http://jcforbes.com/jcfpics/tmwricksurs4/CIMG2688
> http://jcforbes.com/jcfpics/tmwricksurs4/CIMG2687
>
>
> All photos of install:
> http://jcforbes.com/jcfpics/tmwricksurs4/P1010056
> http://jcforbes.com/jcfpics/tmwricksurs4/P1010057
> http://jcforbes.com/jcfpics/tmwricksurs4/P1010058
> http://jcforbes.com/jcfpics/tmwricksurs4/P1010060
> http://jcforbes.com/jcfpics/tmwricksurs4/P1010061
> http://jcforbes.com/jcfpics/tmwricksurs4/CIMG2682
> http://jcforbes.com/jcfpics/tmwricksurs4/CIMG2683
> http://jcforbes.com/jcfpics/tmwricksurs4/CIMG2687
> http://jcforbes.com/jcfpics/tmwricksurs4/CIMG2688
> http://jcforbes.com/jcfpics/tmwricksurs4/CIMG2689
>
>
>
>
> All in all I would do it again, but I would save the money on the 034
> bracket and just make my own. I also might have also used my own (MSD 8mm
> spiral wound super-conductor) coil wires instead of the ones supplied
> since
> I had to modify them anyways. If you don't have the ability or equipment
> to
> shorten the wires yourself you just need to be very careful about routing
> and make sure you tie them to something PLASTIC and also make sure they DO
> NOT touch, especially when tied - tie each wire separately so they can not
> cross-fire.
>
>
> -Cody Forbes
> http://www.5000tq.com
> '87 5ktq - Fast.
> '86 5ktqCD
> '86 5k
> '86 5k
>
>
>


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worldpeace, //brian