[s-cars] Tiptronic gearbox and others like it

[Vincent Frégeac]

Get an S8 for 20K$, spend the additional 10K$ to convert it to 6sp manual
(Euro spec) and you'll have probably the only S8 6sp in N.A. instead of an
E500 anyone can buy.

If it's not enough, you can try to fit the 6 sp manual on a W12, but since
they made only 750 A8 W12 worldwide, the engine may be hard to find (and
probably above 10K$ :(



Vincent

-----Message d'origine-----
De : s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com
[mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com] De la part de Taka Mizutani
Envoyé : 4 octobre 2007 19:01
À : paul at sfest.us
Cc : s-car-list at audifans.com
Objet : [s-cars] Tiptronic gearbox and others like it

I know I'm going to get lambasted on the s-car list for this, but have any
of you driven other brands' slushbox cars lately?

I cannot stand the tiptronic in any Audi or VW product that I've driven,
incl. A8 (both generations), S4tt, A4 (all three generations), A6 (C5 and
C6), allroad, RS6.

The Volvo slushbox is just as bad as tiptronic- slow to shift, just plain
sucks.

The MBZ slushbox in the W204 C-Class and W211 E-Class is phenomenally good-
very quick to shift, responsive and smooth. (Both the 5-speed and 7-speed
versions)

I have not driven any BMW slushboxes other than the X5 (1st gen.), which I
did not like at all, as bad as Tiptronic.

Infiniti slushbox is pretty lousy as well (G35, FX45).

I'm still considering a W211 E500 wagon- I can't find anything like it at
the price that they go for used (under $30k).

BMW E60 535xi Touring would be nice, with a 6-speed manual, but they're well
north of $60k and only available as '08s.

There is no comparable Audi (A6 is a slug, S4 Avant is too small although
manual transmissions are available, I don't like allroads).

Volvo stopped making Rs after '07, so there will be no new generation V70R,
which is a shame.

Saabs are just too ugly interior-wise to consider and the only interesting
one would be a 9-3X Aero Sportkombi, which I doubt will be available in
manual and a bit too small.

I'm also thinking G-Wagen, which is way out in left field.

Porsche Cayenne S is a possibility as well, if you can find one without the
problematic air suspension, which is a $6k+ repair if it goes.


Any thoughts from the collective?

Taka
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