Teddy, What they really need to do is to take a blank sheet of paper, design a cool mid engine chassis and drop that motor in there. Call it the Just Not R8 edition. Bill~captain obvious~M No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.8/993 - Release Date: 9/6/2007 3:18 PM