[s-cars] CEL came on while driving, won't restart found code 4411 - HELP! :-)

Wed Feb 20 11:21:28 PST 2008

FWIW, my 95 behaved very much like yours. No start only occasionally. No CEL and no codes, but a new CPS and no recurrences.

Dennis Graber
Quality Linings & Painting
Denver, CO

-----Original Message-----
From: chris chambers <fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com>
To: Robert Myers <bob at chips-ur-s.com>; David Forgie <forgied at shaw.ca>
Cc: s-car-list <s-car-list at audifans.com>
Sent: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 9:42 am
Subject: Re: [s-cars] CEL came on while driving, won't restart found code 4411 - HELP! :-)

Robert,

thanks for the input, yes mine will keep running, but when I shut it
off
it won't re-start unless I wait about an hour.

After waiting the car will fire up immediately.

I'll start with the CPS and go from there, hopefully it will
fix the problem.

Don't suppose Aaron want to visit Kalamazoo? :-) LOL

Thanks again
Chris

--- Robert Myers <bob at chips-ur-s.com> wrote:

> 
> And here's my chimed in version, Dave:  The complete ignition system 
> in my urS6 is new as of last year.  _Everything_ was replaced part by
> 
> part.  Left for last was the CPS because 1. no codes and 2. 
> replacement instructions started with "remove the entire front of the
> 
> car..." and, frankly, I was intimidated.  Fortunately a brand new 
> best friend stopped by for some chip work on his car.  Aaron is a 
> Certified VAG wrench.  I told him my problems and he says "Do you 
> have the part?  (yes) Would you like me to put it in for you - it's 
> only a 45 minute job?"   Now what do you suppose my response 
> was?  ;-)  He put the new CPS in and the engine fired right up first 
> try and has consistently started and run well since then.
> 
> Is that your problem, Chris?  I dunno but it sure sounds like a good 
> possibility - with one MAJOR difference.  When mine went out the 
> engine would simply stop (just as if I had switched the ignition off)
> 
> even while cruising down the highway at 80 mph.  It didn't wait for 
> me to turn off the ignition.  IIRC, yours runs well until you shut it
> 
> down and then refuses to start again.  That is a different behavior 
> than mine exhibited.
> 
> At 11:16 AM 2/20/2008, David Forgie wrote:
> >Chris: Well I can't certify that you aren't insane.  But I can 
> >certify that you are likely frustrated.  Bob
> >  Myers will likely chime in but I know he tried lots of different 
> > potential solutions that seemed to make
> >  sense (based on the evidence).  He had lots of engine stopping/not
> 
> > restarting problems and never once
> >  the 2113 CPS failure code.  But when the CPS was changed, all the 
> > problems went away. Go figure.
> >
> >For a relatively non-intrusive CPS replacement procedure, you might 
> >want to try this from the
> >  AudiWorld UrS-car FAQ page:
> >
> >http://forums.audiworld.com/s4s6/msgs/195605.phtml
> >
> >Good luck (fingers crossed for you).
> >
> >Dave F.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: chris chambers <fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com>
> >Date: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 7:36 am
> >Subject: Re: [s-cars] CEL came on while driving, won't restart found
> 
> >code 4411 - HELP! :-)
> >To: David Forgie <forgied at shaw.ca>, s-car-list
> <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> >Cc: fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com
> >
> > > Dave,
> > >
> > > So I haven't gone completely insane then? :-)
> > >
> > > I don't have to be in Toledo again until next week, I do have a
> CPS
> > > sensor on the way and plan on replacing it this weekend.
> > >
> > > I'm crossing my fingers!
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Chris
> > >
> > >
> > > --- David Forgie <forgied at shaw.ca> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Chris:  I am now convinced that you have the Robert
> > > Myers' version of
> > > > the Cam Position Sensor
> > > >  failure: car stops running or won't restart but if let
> > > to sit for
> > > > awhile, it does restart.  Bob and the
> > > > forum (and me offline) went around and around on that.
> > > He never had
> > > > a 2113 CPS fault code but
> > > > yet when his CPS was changed for a new one, all his problems
> went
> > > > away.
> > > >
> > > > There is a trick on the S2 forum when this happens:  pour
> > > water down
> > > > the front of the cam cover (to
> > > >  cool the CPS).  I think  your hour wait did
> > > the same thing.
> > > >
> > > > Suggest that you rent a car for your next Toledo trip until
> > > you can
> > > > get the CPS changed.
> > > >
> > > > Dave F.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Make April 15th just another day http://www.fairtax.org
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> >
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