[s-cars] WAS CEL came on while driving, won't restart NOW Won't start at all......

Wed Feb 20 13:51:21 PST 2008

Gentz,

A little update on my car it won't start at all now, and it's been
sitting since 10:30 this morning.

Hopefully the CPS will fix it......:-)

--- dgraber460 at aol.com wrote:

> FWIW, my 95 behaved very much like yours. No start only occasionally.
> No CEL and no codes, but a new CPS and no recurrences.
> 
> 
> Dennis Graber
> Quality Linings & Painting
> Denver, CO
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: chris chambers <fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com>
> To: Robert Myers <bob at chips-ur-s.com>; David Forgie <forgied at shaw.ca>
> Cc: s-car-list <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> Sent: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 9:42 am
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] CEL came on while driving, won't restart found
> code 4411 - HELP! :-)
> 
> 
> 
> Robert,
> 
> thanks for the input, yes mine will keep running, but when I shut it
> off
> it won't re-start unless I wait about an hour.
> 
> After waiting the car will fire up immediately.
> 
> I'll start with the CPS and go from there, hopefully it will
> fix the problem.
> 
> Don't suppose Aaron want to visit Kalamazoo? :-) LOL
> 
> Thanks again
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
> --- Robert Myers <bob at chips-ur-s.com> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > And here's my chimed in version, Dave:  The complete ignition
> system 
> > in my urS6 is new as of last year.  _Everything_ was replaced part
> by
> > 
> > part.  Left for last was the CPS because 1. no codes and 2. 
> > replacement instructions started with "remove the entire front of
> the
> > 
> > car..." and, frankly, I was intimidated.  Fortunately a brand new 
> > best friend stopped by for some chip work on his car.  Aaron is a 
> > Certified VAG wrench.  I told him my problems and he says "Do you 
> > have the part?  (yes) Would you like me to put it in for you - it's
> 
> > only a 45 minute job?"   Now what do you suppose my response 
> > was?  ;-)  He put the new CPS in and the engine fired right up
> first 
> > try and has consistently started and run well since then.
> > 
> > Is that your problem, Chris?  I dunno but it sure sounds like a
> good 
> > possibility - with one MAJOR difference.  When mine went out the 
> > engine would simply stop (just as if I had switched the ignition
> off)
> > 
> > even while cruising down the highway at 80 mph.  It didn't wait for
> 
> > me to turn off the ignition.  IIRC, yours runs well until you shut
> it
> > 
> > down and then refuses to start again.  That is a different behavior
> 
> > than mine exhibited.
> > 
> > At 11:16 AM 2/20/2008, David Forgie wrote:
> > >Chris: Well I can't certify that you aren't insane.  But I can 
> > >certify that you are likely frustrated.  Bob
> > >  Myers will likely chime in but I know he tried lots of different
> 
> > > potential solutions that seemed to make
> > >  sense (based on the evidence).  He had lots of engine
> stopping/not
> > 
> > > restarting problems and never once
> > >  the 2113 CPS failure code.  But when the CPS was changed, all
> the 
> > > problems went away. Go figure.
> > >
> > >For a relatively non-intrusive CPS replacement procedure, you
> might 
> > >want to try this from the
> > >  AudiWorld UrS-car FAQ page:
> > >
> > >http://forums.audiworld.com/s4s6/msgs/195605.phtml
> > >
> > >Good luck (fingers crossed for you).
> > >
> > >Dave F.
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: chris chambers <fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com>
> > >Date: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 7:36 am
> > >Subject: Re: [s-cars] CEL came on while driving, won't restart
> found
> > 
> > >code 4411 - HELP! :-)
> > >To: David Forgie <forgied at shaw.ca>, s-car-list
> > <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> > >Cc: fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com
> > >
> > > > Dave,
> > > >
> > > > So I haven't gone completely insane then? :-)
> > > >
> > > > I don't have to be in Toledo again until next week, I do have a
> > CPS
> > > > sensor on the way and plan on replacing it this weekend.
> > > >
> > > > I'm crossing my fingers!
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Chris
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- David Forgie <forgied at shaw.ca> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Chris:  I am now convinced that you have the Robert
> > > > Myers' version of
> > > > > the Cam Position Sensor
> > > > >  failure: car stops running or won't restart but if let
> > > > to sit for
> > > > > awhile, it does restart.  Bob and the
> > > > > forum (and me offline) went around and around on that.
> > > > He never had
> > > > > a 2113 CPS fault code but
> > > > > yet when his CPS was changed for a new one, all his problems
> > went
> > > > > away.
> > > > >
> > > > > There is a trick on the S2 forum when this happens:  pour
> > > > water down
> > > > > the front of the cam cover (to
> > > > >  cool the CPS).  I think  your hour wait did
> > > > the same thing.
> > > > >
> > > > > Suggest that you rent a car for your next Toledo trip until
> > > > you can
> > > > > get the CPS changed.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave F.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 
> > >
> >
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