[s-cars] Garage project (NAC)

Mark Strangways StrangConst at rogers.com
Mon Jan 7 19:46:05 PST 2008 

You had better have a least one hoist in there....
Or we are coming to install one :-)

Mark
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Young, Steve" <sryoung at trane.com>
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Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: [s-cars] Garage project (NAC)



My barn is 40 x 33 with a 14 foot ceiling in the main room.  Just get your 
tools, cars, and everything else inside.  Your echo will go away.  Mine did.


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Steven Young
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of djdawson2 at aol.com
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 8:29 PM
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Subject: Re: [s-cars] Garage project (NAC)

It is a 25 x 40 room, with a 12 foot ceiling. I'd say every bit of it is a 
reflective surface. That amounts to 3560 square feet. Covering 50% is not an 
option. I'm hoping some "apprpriately" placed items will do the trick.

Dave


-----Original Message-----
From: Vincent Frégeac <s.sikss at gmail.com>
To: djdawson2 at aol.com; s-car-list at audifans.com
Sent: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 4:53 pm
Subject: RE: [s-cars] Garage project (NAC)



Matress foam is a good fire retardant sound dampening material. Used foam 
attress is the cheapest source for it. There's always some for sale in ocal 
papers.
Beside, you don't need to cover the full area. Check what seems to be the 
ost reflective surfaces (empty walls, ceiling) and cover 50% of the area.
t should be enough since you don't need a anechoic chamber.
Another solution is to paint a thick layer of tar, like the waterproofing 
aterial for roofs, but the smell in hot days may not be that agreable.


incent.

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project (NAC)

hanks for all the suggestions.? I'm thinking the foam panel idea may be the 
asiest.? Yeah, I know the fire issue, but I believe some of the insulating 
oards are retardant.? I figure a couple of 2' x 4' sections up near the top 
f the walls, and a couple on the ceiling should hopefully do it.

The space is not huge (25 x 40 x 12), but the best I could excavate into the 
ountain behind my house.? Numerous larger tools (tire changer, balancer, ool 
box, lift, press) will be going in as well, and should also help reduce 
eflection.
Tom, to your envy.... this has been a long time coming, and nearly 2 years o 
complete (don't ask).? I've dreamed of a workspace like this since I was n 
high school.? Nothing about building a garage like this makes any inancial 
sense... but as the years go by, laying under a car on your back n the cold 
loses it luster.??Cars are?my favorite hobby, and that's how I ationalize it 
to myself!!!
Dave

----Original Message-----
rom: Tom Green <trgreen at comcast.net>
o: s-car-list <s-car-list at audifans.com>; djdawson2 at aol.com
ent: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 9:15 am
ubject: Re:[s-cars] Garage project (NAC)

Dave,?

 am so envious of this project. I would give up half the house for such a 
arage/workshop. Three or four bays and a recreation/ library and bath above 
ould eliminate most of the need to?
isit the house. :-)?

orry, I don't have any specific positive recommendations for the noise. If t 
is attached to the house, there may be paths to carry it inside as well.
 caution you about trying to use ordinary?
oam or other similar materials since most do not meet fire code if left 
xposed. I expect the interior is somewhat empty when showing it off, 
specially the new floor, which provides a lot?
ore flat reflective surfaces. A few of the cushion mats for extended tanding 
and other equipment and vehicles can help interrupt the sound paths hen the 
garage is in full operation.?

here are professionals that do sound analysis for public space design, but 
ou can probably get what you need by just observing the layout of service 
enters you regularly visit, and add?
 stop at a few more just to look and listen. You quickly pick up which ones 
ontrol noise best just holding a short conversation in them, and probably ee 
why.?

t may be that the dirt or Kaolin clay (kitty litter) is a great sound 
bsorber :-) and a full shop is less noisy than an empty one. :-)?

om?

 Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 19:13:10 -0500?
 From: djdawson2 at aol.com?
 Subject: [s-cars] Garage project (NAC)?
 To: s-car-list at audifans.com?
 Message-ID: <8CA1ED9389D0943-11FC-6792 at FWM-M44.sysops.aol.com>?
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?
 So... my "dream car garage" nears completion.? I just finished > putting 
own 25 mils of industrial grade epoxy on the floor (piece > of cake, I ight 
add), and it is gorgeous.?
?
 It is basically ready to move in, but an annoying problem has > surfaced.?
 hadn't really noticed while working in the garage > alone, but when there 
re a few people inside talking, you can > barely understand each other...
he echoes/reverberation are > unbelievably bad.?
?
 So, to those of you?that may have?experience, what is a good way of > 
educing this to a tolerable level?? I've researched acoustic > panels, tc... 
but the cost is a bit extreme for a garage.? I do > feel I must do omething, 
as I can't even imagine what an impact > wrench might sound ike.?
?
 Any ideas appreciated...?
?
 Dave?


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