[s-cars] Garage project

[Tom Green]

I think perhaps we are making too much of this, Dave.  The problem  
will probably mitigate or disappear when the garage is appropriately  
stocked.  If you are using noisy equipment it is a
good idea to use ear protection.  I like my ipod with ANC headphones  
when using power equipment with constant rpm, like the leaf blower.

I would just visit Davidsons for a supply of Great Divide Brewery's  
Hercules IPA, then your guests won't mind the noise either.  I hope  
the refrigerator isn't too noisy.  :-)

Tom

> Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 20:28:49 -0500
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> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Garage project (NAC)
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> It is a 25 x 40 room, with a 12 foot ceiling.? I'd say every bit of  
> it is a reflective surface.? That amounts to 3560 square feet.?  
> Covering 50% is not an option.? I'm hoping some "apprpriately"  
> placed items will do the trick.
>
> Dave
>
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> Matress foam is a good fire retardant sound dampening material.  
> Used foam
> attress is the cheapest source for it. There's always some for sale in
> ocal papers.
> Beside, you don't need to cover the full area. Check what seems to  
> be the
> ost reflective surfaces (empty walls, ceiling) and cover 50% of the  
> area.
> t should be enough since you don't need a anechoic chamber.
> Another solution is to paint a thick layer of tar, like the  
> waterproofing
> aterial for roofs, but the smell in hot days may not be that agreable.
>
>
> incent.
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> hanks for all the suggestions.? I'm thinking the foam panel idea  
> may be the
> asiest.? Yeah, I know the fire issue, but I believe some of the  
> insulating
> oards are retardant.? I figure a couple of 2' x 4' sections up near  
> the top
> f the walls, and a couple on the ceiling should hopefully do it.
>
> The space is not huge (25 x 40 x 12), but the best I could excavate  
> into the
> ountain behind my house.? Numerous larger tools (tire changer,  
> balancer,
> ool box, lift, press) will be going in as well, and should also  
> help reduce
> eflection.
> Tom, to your envy.... this has been a long time coming, and nearly  
> 2 years
> o complete (don't ask).? I've dreamed of a workspace like this  
> since I was
> n high school.? Nothing about building a garage like this makes any
> inancial sense... but as the years go by, laying under a car on  
> your back
> n the cold loses it luster.??Cars are?my favorite hobby, and that's  
> how I
> ationalize it to myself!!!
> Dave
>
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> ent: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 9:15 am
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> Dave,?
>
>  am so envious of this project. I would give up half the house for  
> such a
> arage/workshop. Three or four bays and a recreation/ library and  
> bath above
> ould eliminate most of the need to?
> isit the house. :-)?
>
> orry, I don't have any specific positive recommendations for the  
> noise. If
> t is attached to the house, there may be paths to carry it inside  
> as well.
>  caution you about trying to use ordinary?
> oam or other similar materials since most do not meet fire code if  
> left
> xposed. I expect the interior is somewhat empty when showing it off,
> specially the new floor, which provides a lot?
> ore flat reflective surfaces. A few of the cushion mats for extended
> tanding and other equipment and vehicles can help interrupt the  
> sound paths
> hen the garage is in full operation.?
>
> here are professionals that do sound analysis for public space  
> design, but
> ou can probably get what you need by just observing the layout of  
> service
> enters you regularly visit, and add?
>  stop at a few more just to look and listen. You quickly pick up  
> which ones
> ontrol noise best just holding a short conversation in them, and  
> probably
> ee why.?
>
> t may be that the dirt or Kaolin clay (kitty litter) is a great sound
> bsorber :-) and a full shop is less noisy than an empty one. :-)?
>
> om?
>
>  Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 19:13:10 -0500?
>  From: djdawson2 at aol.com?
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>  So... my "dream car garage" nears completion.? I just finished >  
> putting
> own 25 mils of industrial grade epoxy on the floor (piece > of cake, I
> ight add), and it is gorgeous.?
> ?
>  It is basically ready to move in, but an annoying problem has >  
> surfaced.?
>  hadn't really noticed while working in the garage > alone, but  
> when there
> re a few people inside talking, you can > barely understand each  
> other...
> he echoes/reverberation are > unbelievably bad.?
> ?
>  So, to those of you?that may have?experience, what is a good way of >
> educing this to a tolerable level?? I've researched acoustic > panels,
> tc... but the cost is a bit extreme for a garage.? I do > feel I  
> must do
> omething, as I can't even imagine what an impact > wrench might sound
> ike.?
> ?
>  Any ideas appreciated...?
> ?
>  Dave?

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