[s-cars] Intro and stalling thread...

[Tom Green]

I am pleased to see that Jamu is a Mac user.  I knew that boy had  
promise. :-)
But, are you really sure making a Mac work exactly like a PC is good?

I agree that the Mac users story at Microsoft does not have much  
basis in fact.    I
would expect to find the only advantage over an adequately designed  
PC laptop
is in graphics, and only because they tend to go cheap.  That  
advantage lessens
in higher end PC models.  If the Microsoft employees want a real  
difference, they
need to run OSX, since the real problem with a PC is the inefficiency  
of Windoze
itself

I am totally with you Ian, on the advantages of using a Mac, although  
my G5
models operate just fine, especially since I don't gum up the works  
with Windoze.
This leaves me to wonder why someone would try to screw up a great  
machine by
putting windows on it.  :-)

That leaves me to postulate that what your group really needs is a  
moderately
priced PC that will natively run OSX.  Then you have a great  
operating system
with hardware you can cheaply discard and replace,  doesn't make such a
big target for thieves, nor generate all the envy from fellow  
passengers or workers.

Tom

> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:28:18 -0500
> From: Ian Duff <iduff at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Intro and stalling thread...
> To: James Murray <james.murray at ericsson.com>
> Cc: s-car-list <s-car-list at audifans.com>, john cl?irigh
> 	<john at johncleirigh.com>
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> And if using a virtualization product such as Parallels or Fusion
> isn't close enough, Apple offers users the ability to boot into either
> OS X (ad use the VM stuff there), or boot directly into the OS of your
> choice, such as XP or Vista.
>
> The performance of a Mac running a Windows variant natively (i.e.
> booting directly into it) is astounding, reported to be faster than on
> what would be considered a very fast PC. Apocryphal note: some
> Microsoft employees are reputed to be using Macs from which all
> vestiges of OS X have been removed, as the preferred Windows platform,
> since they are so fast.
>
> -Ian Duff.
>
> On 14 Jan, 2008, at 16:29, James Murray wrote:
>
>> I recently installed latest VMWare Fusion product and can attest
>> that I am most impressed with it! Makes a Mac work exactly like a
>> PC...
>>
>> http://www.vmware.com/products/fusion/
>>
>> /Jamu.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list- 
>> bounces at audifans.com
>> ] On Behalf Of Ian Duff
>> Sent: January 14, 2008 2:42 PM
>> To: john cl?irigh
>> Cc: s-car-list
>> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Intro and stalling thread...
>>
>> I use VAG-COM and Bentley quite happily in a Parallels Virtual  
>> Machine
>> (VM) running Windows XP on my Intel-based MacBook Pro.
>>
>> If your Mac is Intel-based, I encourage you to check out either
>> Parallels  http://www.parallels.com/en/products/desktop/ or  
>> VMWare  http://www.vmware.com/products/fusion/
>>  for virtualizing Windows. They are each very good, with little to
>> distinguish them, until one really reaches the arcane corners of
>> their capability brag sheets. I happen to use Parallels, and have
>> colleagues using VMWare, and we find very little real difference.
>> Sure, the evangelists for either product will proclaim theirs best,
>> but that's really just fanboy bravado; either will do a great job.
>>
>> If your Mac is an older PowerPC-based model, you might consider
>> upgrading, as the performance of the newer Macs is astonishing when
>> compared to older PPC-based models. If upgrading is unlikely, you
>> will either have to find an el-cheapo Windows box, or use a Windows
>> emulator on your Mac. I have not run an emulator, but have heard
>> groans and grumblings when they are discussed. Of course, eBay is a
>> fair source for el-cheapo WinTel boxes, but caveat emptor.
>>
>> To run VAG-COM in a Windows XP VM on my Mac required an upgrade to a
>> USB connected dongle http://ross-tech.com/vag-com/hex-usb+can.html,
>> after that it's all peaches and cream.
>>
>> HTH.
>> -Ian Duff.