[s-cars] The All-Season tire question

Wylie Bean theringmeister at triad.rr.com
Sat Jan 26 14:59:45 PST 2008


Some guys on the allroad forums swear by them. (un)fortunately I live in NC so it's a non-issue. 


Wylie Bean
90 cq
91 90q20v
92 UrS4
01 allroad

-----Original Message-----
From: "Gísli Óttarsson" <gislio at gmail.com>

Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 22:21:23 
To:s-car-list at audifans.com
Subject: Re: [s-cars] The All-Season tire question


I promised those that showed interest in this thread that I would post about
my conclusion and subsequent experience.

I went with the Pirelli PZero Nero M&S based on my good experience with
these tires on my UrS4.  We have had a fair amount of
snow<http://pippan.blog.is/users/5f/pippan/files/l_bilaleiga_f_alla_brynja_dsc00079_0_0.jpg>here
in Reykjavik in January and I have not regretted my choice for a
second.  Between the PZero Neros, the quattro and the ESP my S8 takes me
anywhere.  I'll be scraping the bellypan in the snowbanks and it just keeps
going and going and ...

Driving in wet and dry is also excellent.  Couldn't be happier.

  Gisli


On Apr 7, 2007 12:40 PM, Gísli Óttarsson <gislio at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> All:
>
> I need to replace tires on my 2001 S8 (original equipment: Bridgestone
> Potenza RE040 245/45ZR18) and based on the positive experience I had with
> the Pirelli PZero Nero all-season tire on my UrS4, I've decided to go
> all-season again.
>
> I live in Reykjavik, Iceland, and although total annual snowfall is
> unremarkable, snow can be expected 7 months of the year.  I don't want to
> drive on snow tires for 7 months when most of the time there is no snow.
>
> When I bought the UrS4, it came on Fulda summer tires and came with a set
> of winter tires.  With a hint of snow the Fuldas were impossible and the
> winter tires sucked.  I decided to try all-season tires and chanced upon the
> Pirelli PZero Nero.  These tires were great!.  The UrS4 could drive through
> almost anything on these tires.  They were also quite acceptable in the wet
> and dry.  I was amazed and never touched the winter tires again.
>
> The Pirellis have two minor flaws.  First of all, the ride is on the hard
> side.  Second of all, they don't track very well on uneven pavement.  After
> a winters worth of studded tire traffic, some Reykjavik streets have nasty
> grooves in them and the Pirellis didn't like them much.  To be fair, the
> Fuldas were not too thrilled about these grooves either so maybe it was a
> function of tires width rather than tire type.  (The UrS4 has zero steering
> system wear and alignment is within spec).
>
> I want to try to repeat this success with the S8.  The question is whether
> I can do better than the Pirellis.  I've narrowed my alternatives down to
>
> Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Position<http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Bridgestone&tireModel=Potenza+RE960AS+Pole+Position&partnum=445WR8RE960PPXL&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&place=1&speed_rating=V&speed_rating=Z&speed_rating=W&speed_rating=Y&minSpeedRating=V>
> Pirelli PZero Nero M&S<http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Pirelli&tireModel=PZero+Nero+M%2526S&partnum=445WR80NMS&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&place=5&speed_rating=V&speed_rating=Z&speed_rating=W&speed_rating=Y&minSpeedRating=V>
> Michelin Pilot Sport A/S<http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=Pilot+Sport+A%252FS&partnum=445YR8SPORTAS&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&place=4&speed_rating=V&speed_rating=Z&speed_rating=W&speed_rating=Y&minSpeedRating=V>
>
> The first two are similarly priced (less than $190 each) but the Michelins
> cost almost $100 more.  There are many other choices<http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Compare1.jsp?width=245%252F&ratio=45&diameter=18&autoYear=2001&diameter=18&sortCode=54050&minLoad=S&ratio=45&autoMake=Audi&autoModClar=&minSpeedRating=V&width=245%252F&autoModel=S8&vehicleSearch=true&startIndex=0&search=true&pagelen=20&pagenum=1&pagemark=1&performance=UHPAS&speed_rating=V&speed_rating=Z&speed_rating=W&speed_rating=Y&RunFlat=All&x=47&y=8>but none of them seem very promising.
>
> Based on customer reviews, I am leaning toward the Bridgestone, but I
> wonder if there is s-car-list experience I could benefit from.
>
> Thanks for any input,
>
>    Gisli
>
>
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