[s-cars] The All-Season tire question
Steve Marinello
smarinello at entouch.net
Sat Jan 26 17:23:12 PST 2008
Still a very good tire. The wife's Odyssey actually handles with
them...and a slightly stiffer suspension. No grip issues in Houston
downpours. Had to upgrade to TL wheels to get a size that would fit...
Pretty expensive in Audi sizes; incredibly cheap for the Odyssey; stock
tire on the Mustang GT at 235/55-17.
Wylie Bean wrote:
> Some guys on the allroad forums swear by them. (un)fortunately I live in NC so it's a non-issue.
>
>
> Wylie Bean
> 90 cq
> 91 90q20v
> 92 UrS4
> 01 allroad
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Gísli Óttarsson" <gislio at gmail.com>
>
> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 22:21:23
> To:s-car-list at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] The All-Season tire question
>
>
> I promised those that showed interest in this thread that I would post about
> my conclusion and subsequent experience.
>
> I went with the Pirelli PZero Nero M&S based on my good experience with
> these tires on my UrS4. We have had a fair amount of
> snow<http://pippan.blog.is/users/5f/pippan/files/l_bilaleiga_f_alla_brynja_dsc00079_0_0.jpg>here
> in Reykjavik in January and I have not regretted my choice for a
> second. Between the PZero Neros, the quattro and the ESP my S8 takes me
> anywhere. I'll be scraping the bellypan in the snowbanks and it just keeps
> going and going and ...
>
> Driving in wet and dry is also excellent. Couldn't be happier.
>
> Gisli
>
>
> On Apr 7, 2007 12:40 PM, Gísli Óttarsson <gislio at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> All:
>>
>> I need to replace tires on my 2001 S8 (original equipment: Bridgestone
>> Potenza RE040 245/45ZR18) and based on the positive experience I had with
>> the Pirelli PZero Nero all-season tire on my UrS4, I've decided to go
>> all-season again.
>>
>> I live in Reykjavik, Iceland, and although total annual snowfall is
>> unremarkable, snow can be expected 7 months of the year. I don't want to
>> drive on snow tires for 7 months when most of the time there is no snow.
>>
>> When I bought the UrS4, it came on Fulda summer tires and came with a set
>> of winter tires. With a hint of snow the Fuldas were impossible and the
>> winter tires sucked. I decided to try all-season tires and chanced upon the
>> Pirelli PZero Nero. These tires were great!. The UrS4 could drive through
>> almost anything on these tires. They were also quite acceptable in the wet
>> and dry. I was amazed and never touched the winter tires again.
>>
>> The Pirellis have two minor flaws. First of all, the ride is on the hard
>> side. Second of all, they don't track very well on uneven pavement. After
>> a winters worth of studded tire traffic, some Reykjavik streets have nasty
>> grooves in them and the Pirellis didn't like them much. To be fair, the
>> Fuldas were not too thrilled about these grooves either so maybe it was a
>> function of tires width rather than tire type. (The UrS4 has zero steering
>> system wear and alignment is within spec).
>>
>> I want to try to repeat this success with the S8. The question is whether
>> I can do better than the Pirellis. I've narrowed my alternatives down to
>>
>> Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Position<http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Bridgestone&tireModel=Potenza+RE960AS+Pole+Position&partnum=445WR8RE960PPXL&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&place=1&speed_rating=V&speed_rating=Z&speed_rating=W&speed_rating=Y&minSpeedRating=V>
>> Pirelli PZero Nero M&S<http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Pirelli&tireModel=PZero+Nero+M%2526S&partnum=445WR80NMS&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&place=5&speed_rating=V&speed_rating=Z&speed_rating=W&speed_rating=Y&minSpeedRating=V>
>> Michelin Pilot Sport A/S<http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=Pilot+Sport+A%252FS&partnum=445YR8SPORTAS&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&place=4&speed_rating=V&speed_rating=Z&speed_rating=W&speed_rating=Y&minSpeedRating=V>
>>
>> The first two are similarly priced (less than $190 each) but the Michelins
>> cost almost $100 more. There are many other choices<http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Compare1.jsp?width=245%252F&ratio=45&diameter=18&autoYear=2001&diameter=18&sortCode=54050&minLoad=S&ratio=45&autoMake=Audi&autoModClar=&minSpeedRating=V&width=245%252F&autoModel=S8&vehicleSearch=true&startIndex=0&search=true&pagelen=20&pagenum=1&pagemark=1&performance=UHPAS&speed_rating=V&speed_rating=Z&speed_rating=W&speed_rating=Y&RunFlat=All&x=47&y=8>but none of them seem very promising.
>>
>> Based on customer reviews, I am leaning toward the Bridgestone, but I
>> wonder if there is s-car-list experience I could benefit from.
>>
>> Thanks for any input,
>>
>> Gisli
>>
>>
>>
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