[s-cars] When good Dads go bad (and blow your motor)

[djdawson2 at aol.com]

Exactly... it did turn over.? In my experience, a serious overheat usually results in the engine quitting prior to any bottom end damage.? I used to work on a fleet whose forklift operators would essentially run them until the cooling system was dry... and the engine would quit.? With those engines (cast iron top and bottom ends, Nissan) they wouldn't even blow headgaskets.

The Audi head will warp and blow the gasket.? The big risk (again, in my opinion) is that the head actually cracked.? Other than that, I think he should be able to put it back together without too much trouble.

Yes, long western commutes are my middle name.? 70k worth on the old UrS/GT30R ride... lots of tickets? ;)

Dave


-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Green <trgreen at comcast.net>
To: djdawson2 at aol.com
Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com; qweblog at gmail.com
Sent: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 7:05 pm
Subject: Re: [s-cars] When good Dads go bad (and blow your motor)


I would ad this to the equation, Brian. ?Eager buyer just waiting to buy your old engine.



I assume you want it for your daily driver for commutes to Montana and Washington, Dave?




Neither of us has seen the engine, Dave, but the "he drove it until it was dead" doesn't sound like

a good starting place. ? Of course, it did turn over... ?:-)




Tom




On Jul 7, 2008, at 8:22 PM, djdawson2 at aol.com wrote:


And when you replace that engine, be sure to let me know and I'll take the old one "off your hands."?


-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Green <trgreen at comcast.net>
To: s-car-list <s-car-list at audifans.com>; brian hoeft <qweblog at gmail.com>
Sent: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 6:09 pm
Subject: Re: [s-cars] When good Dads go bad (and blow your motor)



I think Dave is putting you on the right track, but I think he is too  
optimistic here.
When you suffer extreme meltdown as it appears happened in this case,  
there
are always unforeseen issues that appear later, i.e., lower end  
bearing damage,
piston damage, oil passage clogging, especially from coking at the  
turbo, and
the myriad of cooling and oil hoses overheated from the episode that  
won't show
immediate damage but can fail catastrophically causing the same  
problem you
just fixed.  Or, you are left with little things always going wrong,  
and some times
you just can't seem to find the source of the problem.

My choice would be #1 replace car.  If that is not appealing, then #2  
is replace
engine and all accessories attached to it except a/c.

Tom

> Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 16:03:20 -0400
> From: "brian hoeft" <qweblog at gmail.com>
> Subject: [s-cars] When good Dads go bad (and blow your motor)
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> So I left my car at my families house since Im doing a 1JZ('91  
> Supra) swap
> for a friend of my dad. He(my dad) claims to have needed to use my  
> car since
> he couldnt fit equipment in his trunk this weekend.
>
> Then, while driving, the water temp/level light began to flash. I  
> told him
> the fuel guage was flaky previously and not to worry about it so  
> long as the
> trip odo didnt near 300. .. I guess he took that as ignore all  
> warning lamps
> and press on..
>
> Well.. he drove it until it was dead. When I went to check it out  
> on the
> side of the highway, on first crank I knew it was at least the  
> headgasket.
> Typical no compression whirring sound and rush of thoughts,  
> emotions, etc..
>
> I havent got a chance to take her apart yet but I know Im looking at
> minimum, headgasket, but since she'll be that far apart and likely  
> needed
> anyway how much do I work the head? what should I use? Im open to
> suggestions on that.
>
> Yes my dad murdered my S-car, F*CK!F__K!FHACK.. Bad too, the  
> reservoir,
> coolant flange and sensor at the back of the head blew apart.. and  
> even the
> little half moon part of the valve cover gasket popped out.. WTF!?
>
> -Brian

>> Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:15:11 -0400
>> From: djdawson2 at aol.com
>> Subject: Re: [s-cars] When good Dads go bad (and blow your motor)
>> To: qweblog at gmail.com, s-car-list at audifans.com
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>> It sounds like it was overheated to an extreme.? That being the  
>> case, you might as well have the head rebuilt.? It is probably  
>> going to have to be milled flat anyway, so taking the time to do a  
>> valve job and replace the guides and seals would just be common  
>> sense.? I only hope it didn't crack.
>>
>> You'll be putting in the steel headgasket, which is good.? I'd  
>> also consider putting in ARP head studs while doing this job.
>>
>> Have fun!
>>
>> Dave
>>
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