[s-cars] When good Dads go bad (and blow your motor)

Mon Jul 7 21:11:35 PDT 2008

Also, I have a good engine (still in a 93 S4) that desperately needs  
to leave my garage soon. If only I had time/money....

R/S
Floyd Noel
Sgt, United States Marine Corps
Recruiter for Marin County, California

On Jul 7, 2008, at 19:35, djdawson2 at aol.com wrote:

> Exactly... it did turn over.? In my experience, a serious overheat  
> usually results in the engine quitting prior to any bottom end  
> damage.? I used to work on a fleet whose forklift operators would  
> essentially run them until the cooling system was dry... and the  
> engine would quit.? With those engines (cast iron top and bottom  
> ends, Nissan) they wouldn't even blow headgaskets.
>
> The Audi head will warp and blow the gasket.? The big risk (again,  
> in my opinion) is that the head actually cracked.? Other than that,  
> I think he should be able to put it back together without too much  
> trouble.
>
> Yes, long western commutes are my middle name.? 70k worth on the old  
> UrS/GT30R ride... lots of tickets? ;)
>
> Dave
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Green <trgreen at comcast.net>
> To: djdawson2 at aol.com
> Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com; qweblog at gmail.com
> Sent: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 7:05 pm
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] When good Dads go bad (and blow your motor)
>
>
> I would ad this to the equation, Brian. ?Eager buyer just waiting to  
> buy your old engine.
>
>
>
> I assume you want it for your daily driver for commutes to Montana  
> and Washington, Dave?
>
>
>
>
> Neither of us has seen the engine, Dave, but the "he drove it until  
> it was dead" doesn't sound like
>
> a good starting place. ? Of course, it did turn over... ?:-)
>
>
>
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 7, 2008, at 8:22 PM, djdawson2 at aol.com wrote:
>
>
> And when you replace that engine, be sure to let me know and I'll  
> take the old one "off your hands."?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Green <trgreen at comcast.net>
> To: s-car-list <s-car-list at audifans.com>; brian hoeft <qweblog at gmail.com 
> >
> Sent: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 6:09 pm
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] When good Dads go bad (and blow your motor)
>
>
>
> I think Dave is putting you on the right track, but I think he is too
> optimistic here.
> When you suffer extreme meltdown as it appears happened in this case,
> there
> are always unforeseen issues that appear later, i.e., lower end
> bearing damage,
> piston damage, oil passage clogging, especially from coking at the
> turbo, and
> the myriad of cooling and oil hoses overheated from the episode that
> won't show
> immediate damage but can fail catastrophically causing the same
> problem you
> just fixed.  Or, you are left with little things always going wrong,
> and some times
> you just can't seem to find the source of the problem.
>
> My choice would be #1 replace car.  If that is not appealing, then #2
> is replace
> engine and all accessories attached to it except a/c.
>
> Tom
>
>> Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 16:03:20 -0400
>> From: "brian hoeft" <qweblog at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [s-cars] When good Dads go bad (and blow your motor)
>> To: liSt <s-car-list at audifans.com>
>> Message-ID:
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>> So I left my car at my families house since Im doing a 1JZ('91
>> Supra) swap
>> for a friend of my dad. He(my dad) claims to have needed to use my
>> car since
>> he couldnt fit equipment in his trunk this weekend.
>>
>> Then, while driving, the water temp/level light began to flash. I
>> told him
>> the fuel guage was flaky previously and not to worry about it so
>> long as the
>> trip odo didnt near 300. .. I guess he took that as ignore all
>> warning lamps
>> and press on..
>>
>> Well.. he drove it until it was dead. When I went to check it out
>> on the
>> side of the highway, on first crank I knew it was at least the
>> headgasket.
>> Typical no compression whirring sound and rush of thoughts,
>> emotions, etc..
>>
>> I havent got a chance to take her apart yet but I know Im looking at
>> minimum, headgasket, but since she'll be that far apart and likely
>> needed
>> anyway how much do I work the head? what should I use? Im open to
>> suggestions on that.
>>
>> Yes my dad murdered my S-car, F*CK!F__K!FHACK.. Bad too, the
>> reservoir,
>> coolant flange and sensor at the back of the head blew apart.. and
>> even the
>> little half moon part of the valve cover gasket popped out.. WTF!?
>>
>> -Brian
>
>>> Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:15:11 -0400
>>> From: djdawson2 at aol.com
>>> Subject: Re: [s-cars] When good Dads go bad (and blow your motor)
>>> To: qweblog at gmail.com, s-car-list at audifans.com
>>> Message-ID: <8CAAE854AFDAC38-938-14F9 at Webmail-mg13.sim.aol.com>
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>>> It sounds like it was overheated to an extreme.? That being the
>>> case, you might as well have the head rebuilt.? It is probably
>>> going to have to be milled flat anyway, so taking the time to do a
>>> valve job and replace the guides and seals would just be common
>>> sense.? I only hope it didn't crack.
>>>
>>> You'll be putting in the steel headgasket, which is good.? I'd
>>> also consider putting in ARP head studs while doing this job.
>>>
>>> Have fun!
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
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