[s-cars] Saw my first A5

[Joe Pizzimenti]

Nothing against the 2.7T, it's a great motor at altitude, but trying to get
it to work in a B7/B8 body while still keeping all the other systems happy
is an exercise in frustration.  A 335xi makes a lot more sense in that price
range.

Having driven B5-B7 Audi's & E46-E92 BMW's, I have to say that BMW has it
nailed on the turbo thing now.  That turbo 3.0L 6 feels like a small V8 with
its low end grunt & I'd say give it a year or 2 for the aftermarket to
really kick off.  Drove a friend's E36 with a decent sized hairdryer on it.
He beats the ever loving piss out of the car & hasn't had any motor issues
to date (about 20k), so I can only imagine what the 335 motor will be like
once people really start leaning on them.

And a K04'd S4 is pretty much daily driver bliss so long as you don't try to
surpass 500HP.  After that, you start breaking lots of stuff.  IMO, it's an
engine in search of a better drivetrain.

Where's that link to the 2.7T Exige?  :)

Joe

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 12:15 AM, <calvinlc at earthlink.net> wrote:

> I don't know, I supposedly have the worst possible setup on my '01 S4 for
> cooking turbos - pre 2001.5 swapover design, aggressive ABT chip, and
> running at altitude and I thrash the hell out of it and have had no issues
> whatsoever.  Worst case scenario is I torch the turbos and have to
> upgrade.....what a shame :)  I have never heard of anyone having problems
> after switching to K04s.
>
> I guess my point on the 3.2 vs. 2.7t is simple.  If you are leaving the
> 2.7t
> stock and you live down in the thick air, then yes, it makes no sense.
> However, if you live up in the thin air, are doing an engine swap where
> K04s
> are a no brainer, and you want to push 400+ HP, the 3.2 ain't gonna cut it.
> I have run down way too many Z-28's, NA Porsche Carreras, S-2000s, etc. in
> my simply modded '01 S4 with the stock K03's to ever go with a normally
> aspirated car in Denver that has less than 400 cubic inches - which is
> getting price prohibitive on gas anyway.
>
> Oh, and somebody mentioned the A4 handling vs. the S4 handling.  I guess I
> have no handling complaints from my '01 S4 with the H&R Coilovers.
>
> --Calvin
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com
> [mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com]On Behalf Of Taka Mizutani
> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 4:12 PM
> To: djdawson2 at aol.com
> Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Saw my first A5
>
>
> 2.7T engines with K03s seem to cook turbos a lot. My question was whether a
> swap from K03 to K04 fixes the problem permanently or if it is an inherent
> design flaw.
>
> Until these tiny turbos, I've never really had any issues with turbo
> quattros.
>
> I don't really see the point of a 2.7T swap in an A5- the 3.2 is the same
> power output without turbos. If you're going to do a big turbo swap, I'd
> actually wait until the FI version comes out and do something with the FI
> engine rather than a complete engine swap.
>
> Anyway, good luck trying to get a 2.7T to talk to the rest of the systems
> in
> an A5.
>
> Taka
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 4:58 PM, <djdawson2 at aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Well, I like Audis that have turbos... so an RS4 engine swap doesn't
> appeal
> > much to me.
> >
> > I have an A4 1.8t with APR's Stage 3 kit.  It is a lot of fun, and does
> > make some very decent power.  I recently picked up an '01 S4.  Since
> we're
> > talking about the same car with 2 different engines, I can say that the
> 2.7t
> > is very appealing, as it is smooth as silk, where the 1.8t is sort of
> > buzzy/noisey.  Considering that the A/S5 weighs in at nearly 4000lbs, I
> > don't see a 2.0t as a really good transplant option.  It'll be harder to
> > make it scoot than the UrS is.
> >
> > I'm not sure what you mean by the K04 turbo issues... maybe I'm
> uninformed.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Taka Mizutani <t44tqtro at gmail.com>
> > To: djdawson2 at aol.com
> > Cc: larrycleung at gmail.com; s-car-list at audifans.com
> > Sent: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 2:23 pm
> > Subject: Re: [s-cars] Saw my first A5
> >
> > I'd rather look at RS4 engine swap or the opposite direction and put a
> 2.0T
> > modified in there.
> >
> > I don't really see why anyone would want a 2.7T swap. Are the turbo
> issues
> > solved with going to K04 turbos?
> >
> > Taka
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 3:15 PM, <djdawson2 at aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Well, I guess I'll have to stand by my original comments...
> >>
> >> The A or S5 6 speed will make a perfect project car for a 2.7tt
> transplant
> >> in 6 or 7 years when they only bring $15k in the market.
> >>
> >> I'll wait? ;-)
> >>
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