[s-cars] headliner question

[Tom Green]

My only comment on Wild Bill's usually thorough research and  
reporting is that
he is promoting it's use for re-attaching the headliner, which can  
not be done
without removing the headliner board since the adhesive must be sprayed
between the headliner and board.  Even then, the result will not be  
the original
smooth headliner since the foam backing is what fails when the  
headliner droops,
and trying to re-attach it will result in lots of small balls of foam  
everywhere instead
of the smooth backing it was when new.

There was some comment somewhere that the windshield had to be  
removed to
get the headliner board out of the vehicle.  This is totally  
erroneous as the board is
made to be removed and installed through the door at a diagonal.  If  
you have the
board out of the vehicle, reusing the same material would be foolish  
since new
headliner material is cheap.  I don't see any avant instructions, but  
the entry/exit
point appears obvious.

I replaced a 5K headliner in this manner and the Bentley instructions  
for the S4/6
are similar if you can sort through them ignoring the no sunroof  
instructions.

This was always considered to be a southern car problem with the  
humid climate
they were subjected to and not a general problem.  This could be a  
result of
global warming, I suppose.  :-)


> Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 00:48:42 -0400
> From: "Douglas Landaeta" <dlandaeta at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Headliner question
> To: "Bill Mahoney" <airbil at gmail.com>
> Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
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> Thanks Bill - My Rosattobin(tm) is shaping up nicely - and this  
> adhesive
> stuff is much less than the 3m branded! Speaking of bargains, I don't
> frequent the premium priced c^ap at grioots, but this was a bargain I
> couldn't pass up for my Fuchs:
> http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/garage+sale/wheel+restoration 
> +kit.do
> no affiliation and no evidence that the color is as good a match as  
> the
> Silber stuff from *einszett Silver Wheel Paint, but at 1/3 the  
> price, it's
> going into the bin.
>
> Doug
>
> *On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 9:47 PM, Bill Mahoney <airbil at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
>
>> FWLIW~
>> Have no comment on cracked heads, but may have something on Headliner
>> adhesive.
>> The only stuff I have found specifically for re-attaching headliners
>> is "Performance High Temp Trim Adhesive."
>> http://www.yourautotrim.com/perhittrimad.html
>> Whilst I have a can in the Rosattobin(tm)... of course I have yet to
>> use it.   Highly flammable and harmful vapor it has.  Perfect!
>> Bill~crack headliner~M

>>