[s-cars] NAC - Benz 300E Questions

[Taka Mizutani]

Yeah, but 500Es are rare as hell, Doug.

I'm talking about "normal" W124s.

I'd rather have a full AMG 560SEL 6.0 DOHC, oil leaks be damned.

Taka


On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Douglas Landaeta <dlandaeta at gmail.com>wrote:

> W126 = more mtce. $$, less performance, over a W124 with the 8 cyl. M119
>
> Sent from my mobile
>
>
> On Dec 7, 2009, at 5:50 PM, Taka Mizutani <t44tqtro at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Just to add, the head gasket issue referenced seems to only appear in the
>> 24v engines.
>>
>> Regardless, the W124 is one of the best Benzes in recent history- as for
>> the
>> ride and driving experience, I can't comment. I've thought about getting
>> one
>> myself several times.
>>
>> I personally would prefer a W126 S-Class, though.
>>
>> Taka
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Michael Lardizabal <
>> mikellardizabal at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>  .....so true about the torque.
>>>
>>> I had a 96 C36 AMG that would just rip the tires all day long. Even w/
>>> the
>>> ASR button ON.
>>>
>>> As far as the headgasket...yes the later I-6 motors had a rep of going
>>> thru
>>> them, but its not too bad a price to pay for what you get in return. I
>>> think
>>> that once they're done at the typical 110K- 125K mark, they're good for
>>> maybe more the next time about. I think once the block has gone thru a
>>> few
>>> heat cycles, the HG isn't as prone .
>>>
>>> As far as the 190E, the only one worth any effort is the Cossie, but I
>>> agree. The interior fit and finish is .....well, at least its a
>>> lightweight
>>> car w/ a dogleg 5 and an intake sound thats insane.
>>> --- On Mon, 12/7/09, Kent McLean <kentmclean at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Kent McLean <kentmclean at comcast.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [s-cars] NAC - Benz 300E Questions
>>> To: "s-car-list" <s-car-list at audifans.com>
>>> Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 2:54 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> More from the V8 list...
>>>
>>> -- Kent
>>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: RE: 300E Beater
>>> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:46:06 -0600
>>> From: Brian K. Ullrich <bullrich at ullrichsys.com>
>>>
>>> As usual, Roger has the goods. I do differ on a few points though:
>>>
>>> The W124 chassis ran from 1984 to 1995. Badged primarily in the US as the
>>> 300E, it later changed to MB's new badging as the E320, etc. So, it
>>> covers
>>> a
>>> lot of cars, and differing model numbers, including the diesels, which
>>> can
>>> be easily visually distinguished by a fender vent on the right front.
>>>
>>> In my estimation, the best of the W124 cars are the 1993 and newer. They
>>> are
>>> the post-facelift cars, and include many newer features. I personally
>>> owned
>>> a 1990 and a 1995 W124 (300E and E320, respectively), and had little
>>> problems with either, but my 1995 W124 E320 was a smoker. That i6 was a
>>> torque-making fool. And it got great gas mileage.
>>>
>>> I do differ with Roger on one point about the 190 vs. 300/320: I feel
>>> that
>>> the 190 is a much inferior car to its larger cousin. The 190 is known as
>>> the
>>> W201 chassis, and in most US trim, it was equipped with a 2.2l 4 cylinder
>>> motor mated to a 3-speed auto (although the 2.6l 6-cylinders are
>>> available,
>>> and they are equipped with a 4-speed auto). Roger is correct in his
>>> assessment that a teenager could hardly get into too much trouble in this
>>> car, because it just ain't fast. However, I feel that this car is not a
>>> good
>>> choice because those motors revved so high at highway speeds (around 3K
>>> RPM)
>>> that it just put the engine at risk for failure, especially for
>>> high-mileage
>>> cars. Not to mention the fit and finish, which were just not really up to
>>> the standards of MB at the time.
>>>
>>> For my money, if I were to put my teen in a Benz, I'd find a later model
>>> W124, either diesel or gas, and call it a day. The best inline 6-cylinder
>>> engine MB ever built was the 3l/3.2l, and coupled with the W124 chassis,
>>> I
>>> think that makes the best sense. Compared to the 190/W201, parts are more
>>> plentiful, and it's easy to work on.
>>>
>>> Of course, this is just my opinion. My esteemed colleague, Mr. Woodbury,
>>> may
>>> have something else to say on the matter.
>>>
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