[s-cars] t-belt and things

Daniel Koropchak myhoppen at yahoo.com
Wed Jan 21 14:56:40 PST 2009


I to am planning this service soon I quess I need one more part that crank shaft seal. Now were did I put that GP sensor?
Dan

--- On Wed, 1/21/09, djdawson2 at aol.com <djdawson2 at aol.com> wrote:

> From: djdawson2 at aol.com <djdawson2 at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] t-belt and things
> To: trgreen at comcast.net, s-car-list at audifans.com
> Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2009, 1:37 PM
> I've been lucky with the CPS too.? Mine has about 240k
> on it.? Since my head is currently off the engine, might be
> a god idea.? What is the source for the $10 CPS?
> 
> Dave
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Green <trgreen at comcast.net>
> To: s-car-list at audifans.com
> Sent: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:31 am
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] t-belt and things
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> I don't want to be disagreeable but, I will disagree
> here.  The timing  
> belt
> change is straight-forward and is only remarkable by the
> occasional
> screw-up -- look for another shop that can remove a seal
> without  
> incident.
> 
> The original post also said he was going to have the timing
> belt service
> done, which I interpret as not a DIY job, but it is
> necessary that he  
> assemble
> the parts.
> 
> "I've had no problems with timing sensors"
> places David in the minority
> and I would not use the exception to guide my PM decisions.
>  If it is  
> a DIY
> job, changing the CPS with a BBAutoMacao sensor is cheap
> insurance,
> or, conversely, if you always carry your tools and an
> occasional no- 
> start
> episode is no problem, just wait and do it in the parking
> lot.   
> However, if
> you must have it towed to the mechanic and then obtain the
> part and pay
> his labor, better change it now even if you have to buy a
> genuine part.
> 
> I have three vehicles, so the decision to keep a spare
> crank pulley gear
> is a no-brainer.  Plus, I don't want to get bogged down
> in the middle  
> of the
> job having to order a part -- and pay a premium because I
> want it  
> right away.
> I don't automatically use the new part, but I  give it
> a dye-penetrant  
> crack
> inspection before re-use.
> 
> You could have also just said "torsen"  or
> "anti-sieze" rather than  
> ask Mr.
> Chips for crack stories.  Most weren't around for the
> last belt  
> change, so
> the circumstances that caused it are mostly guesswork. 
> And, as the sage
> once remarked, "if you've seen one crack,
> you've seen them all".  : > )
> 
> Tom
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> > -----Original Messages-----
> > Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 22:07:39 -0800
> > From: "David Giannandrea"
> <david.giannandrea at sbcglobal.net>
> > Subject: Re: [s-cars] t-belt and things
> > To: <s-car-list at audifans.com>
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> > I disagree with 2 items suggested here...
> >
> > "timing belt tensioner, cam seal, crankshaft
> seal, camshaft position  
> > sensor"
> >
> > I had a shop ruin the oil pump ($400) because they
> mangled the  
> > removal of
> > the crankshaft seal on my 93 S4 (same 2.2t as
> yours)...and it wasn't  
> > leaking
> > at 150K. So approach that decision with caution.
> >
> > I've had no problems with timing sensors and
> I'm at 210K now.
> >
> > And I think Theodore meant to add water pump to the
> list...they're  
> > cheap
> > enough.
> >
> > David G
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> > Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 22:18:21 -0800
> > From: "David Giannandrea"
> <david.giannandrea at sbcglobal.net>
> > Subject: [s-cars] sheared crankshaft pulley
> > To: <s-car-list at audifans.com>
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> > In the thread about t-belt maintenance Robert Myers
> said he had seen  
> > two
> > sheared pulleys. From what I've read (and
> experienced with the shop  
> > that
> > ruined the oil pump pulling out the crankshaft seal)
> the crankshaft  
> > pulley
> > can be ruined if impact tools are used to remove the
> crankshaft bolt.
> >
> > Additionally, it seems fragile enough to simply fail
> during a proper  
> > removal
> > too. When assembled, the pulley is held so tightly
> with 300ftlbs of  
> > torqued
> > compression, that I doubt it can move.
> >
> > Robert. Give up your stories on how it happened. We
> need to know.
> >
> > David G.
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