[s-cars] Libs are even hacking into our little haven

Sat Jul 25 10:29:24 PDT 2009

Aside from national defense (as called for in the Constitution) I'd venture to guess not much, including government education....
Wylie Bean
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-----Original Message-----
From: joe.pizzimenti at gmail.com

Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 17:20:49 
To: <theringmeister at triad.rr.com>; Ian Duff<iduff at comcast.net>; <s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com>; <djdawson2 at aol.com>
Cc: <airbil at gmail.com>; <s-car-list at audifans.com>
Subject: Re: [s-cars] Libs are even hacking into our little haven

Give me one of example of the government "doing it better" than the private sector & I'll believe you.

From what I've seen so far, I have a healthy sense of skepticism.

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-----Original Message-----
From: "Wylie Bean" <theringmeister at triad.rr.com>

Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:25:27 
To: <joe.pizzimenti at gmail.com>; Ian Duff<iduff at comcast.net>; <s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com>; <djdawson2 at aol.com>
Cc: <airbil at gmail.com>; <s-car-list at audifans.com>
Subject: Re: [s-cars] Libs are even hacking into our little haven

Sorry Pizzo, you didn't earn your "brown shirt" this morning... 
But please, keep trying.  One day you'll realize that the government can, and will, just do it better.....

Wylie Bean
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-----Original Message-----
From: joe.pizzimenti at gmail.com

Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:09:42 
To: Ian Duff<iduff at comcast.net>; <s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com>; <djdawson2 at aol.com>
Cc: <airbil at gmail.com>; <s-car-list at audifans.com>
Subject: Re: [s-cars] Libs are even hacking into our little haven

What work in MA won't necessarily work nationwide.  What is being proposed now is turning the current competitive free market system into a single payer system while the MA system simply penalizes those that do not have coverage.  All existing plans will not be able to add any new members once the new system is integrated.  This doesn't even touch upon the simple fact that we, as a nation, simply can not afford any additional taxation if the economy is to come out of this recession. Putting the onus on employers to pay for healthcare will only lead to more layoffs in addition to putting a lot of people on the private insurer benefits side completely out of work.

While it would be nice, we really can't afford to do it without increasing taxes, which will hinder any ability we had to get out of the current mess we're in.  If I had 20 employees with an overall payroll cost of 2MM & I now have to provide healthcare to all employees, I am either going to reduce the number of employees or reduce profit.

That's an easy decision.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Duff <iduff at comcast.net>

Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 08:28:14 
To: <djdawson2 at aol.com>
Cc: <s-car-list at audifans.com>; <airbil at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [s-cars] Libs are even hacking into our little haven

It is already free for the millions of uninsured. That's why it's so  
expensive for the rest of us, because we have to pay, right now, every  
day, for the existing "free" care. Let's get some fiscal  
responsibility, and eliminate this "free" care, and start paying, out  
in the open, for it. What we have in Massachusetts works, and it is  
certainly not free. Massachusetts, certainly one of the most liberal  
states in the country, looks the most fiscally responsible when it  
comes to paying for health care.

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Grüßen,
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saludos, के साथ सबसे अच्छा संबंध  
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   A mais melhor consideraçāo, によろしく

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On 25 Jul, 2009, at 01:18, djdawson2 at aol.com wrote:

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> From: David Kase <dkase at dorma-usa.com>
> To: airbil <airbil at gmail.com>; s-car-list at audifans.com
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> From: airbil [mailto:airbil at gmail.com]
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> To: s-car-list at audifans.com
> Cc: David Kase
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> Dave,Dave,Dave,
> You've got some stinkin' thinkin' goin' on there.
> Are you complaining about "the man" taking money from you to give to
> Bob Smith to induce him to dump a car he otherwise might have kept?...
> So he will buy a new car from Govt Motors?
> Or, are you complaining about Bob selling his soul for $4500 stolen
> from his fellow countrymen?
> Either way, resistance is futile.
> Had you had the opportunity, you may have decided to take your dough
> and decide for yourself what to do with it.
> Dave, Dave, Dave.
> It's well known that you would just blow it on go fast stupidness and
> possibly a bommaking biz... or something that actually helps the
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