[s-cars] Libs are even hacking into our little haven

Ian Duff iduff at comcast.net
Sat Jul 25 07:56:18 PDT 2009


Sorry, sent first time from a no-S List approved address.

Best regards, Meilleures salutations, 此致敬礼, Mit freundlichen  
Grüßen,
   Con i migliori saluti, مع أطيب التحيات, Cordiales  
saludos, के साथ सबसे अच्छा संबंध  
है,
   A mais melhor consideraçāo, によろしく

-Ian.

Ian Duff | 38 Grove Street | New Bedford | Massachusetts | 02740 | USA
V: +1 (508) 717-8058 | E: ian at inside-overlap.com | F: +1 (801) 335-1661

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On 25 Jul, 2009, at 09:38, Ian Duff wrote:

> Apologies to all. Just realized the original thread got hijacked,  
> and I was a prime offender for taking this list into contentious  
> political directions. No more posts on this thread to the list from  
> me. Feel free to continue off list. Sorry.
>
> Best regards, Meilleures salutations, 此致敬礼, Mit freundlichen  
> Grüßen,
>   Con i migliori saluti, مع أطيب التحيات, Cordiales  
> saludos, के साथ सबसे अच्छा  
> संबंध है,
>   A mais melhor consideraçāo, によろしく
>
> -Ian.
>
> Ian Duff | 38 Grove Street | New Bedford | Massachusetts | 02740 | USA
> V: +1 (508) 717-8058 | E: ian at inside-overlap.com | F: +1 (801)  
> 335-1661
>
> Think Green!  Please do not print this e-mail unless absolutely  
> necessary.
>
> On 25 Jul, 2009, at 09:36, Ian Duff wrote:
>
>> Sarcasm noted.
>>
>> I suspect that even government can do a better job of paying for  
>> healthcare for the millions of uninsured who choose to get their  
>> free healthcare via ambulance from the local ED. For hangnails,  
>> menstrual cramps and migraines. Many times a day. All over the  
>> place. Even a wildly inefficient government program would be far  
>> superior to this mess. Get the costs and payments out into the  
>> light of day, and we can see where we stand. With the uninsured  
>> gaming the system, that's impossible, and reduces our public health.
>>
>> High cost, inefficient. I'm not talking about the anticipated/ 
>> dreaded government system, I'm talking about right now.
>>
>> Best regards, Meilleures salutations, 此致敬礼, Mit freundlichen  
>> Grüßen,
>>   Con i migliori saluti, مع أطيب التحيات, Cordiales  
>> saludos, के साथ सबसे अच्छा  
>> संबंध है,
>>   A mais melhor consideraçāo, によろしく
>>
>> -Ian.
>>
>> Ian Duff | 38 Grove Street | New Bedford | Massachusetts | 02740 |  
>> USA
>> V: +1 (508) 717-8058 | E: ian at inside-overlap.com | F: +1 (801)  
>> 335-1661
>>
>> Think Green!  Please do not print this e-mail unless absolutely  
>> necessary.
>>
>> On 25 Jul, 2009, at 09:25, Wylie Bean wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry Pizzo, you didn't earn your "brown shirt" this morning...
>>> But please, keep trying.  One day you'll realize that the  
>>> government can, and will, just do it better.....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Wylie Bean
>>> TheRingmeister at triad.rr.com
>>> 90 cq
>>> 91 90q20v
>>> 92 UrS4
>>> 08 Q7 3.6
>>> Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: joe.pizzimenti at gmail.com
>>>
>>> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:09:42
>>> To: Ian Duff<iduff at comcast.net>; <s-car-list- 
>>> bounces at audifans.com>; <djdawson2 at aol.com>
>>> Cc: <airbil at gmail.com>; <s-car-list at audifans.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Libs are even hacking into our little haven
>>>
>>>
>>> What work in MA won't necessarily work nationwide.  What is being  
>>> proposed now is turning the current competitive free market system  
>>> into a single payer system while the MA system simply penalizes  
>>> those that do not have coverage.  All existing plans will not be  
>>> able to add any new members once the new system is integrated.   
>>> This doesn't even touch upon the simple fact that we, as a nation,  
>>> simply can not afford any additional taxation if the economy is to  
>>> come out of this recession. Putting the onus on employers to pay  
>>> for healthcare will only lead to more layoffs in addition to  
>>> putting a lot of people on the private insurer benefits side  
>>> completely out of work.
>>>
>>> While it would be nice, we really can't afford to do it without  
>>> increasing taxes, which will hinder any ability we had to get out  
>>> of the current mess we're in.  If I had 20 employees with an  
>>> overall payroll cost of 2MM & I now have to provide healthcare to  
>>> all employees, I am either going to reduce the number of employees  
>>> or reduce profit.
>>>
>>> That's an easy decision.
>>>
>>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Ian Duff <iduff at comcast.net>
>>>
>>> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 08:28:14
>>> To: <djdawson2 at aol.com>
>>> Cc: <s-car-list at audifans.com>; <airbil at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Libs are even hacking into our little haven
>>>
>>>
>>> It is already free for the millions of uninsured. That's why it's so
>>> expensive for the rest of us, because we have to pay, right now,  
>>> every
>>> day, for the existing "free" care. Let's get some fiscal
>>> responsibility, and eliminate this "free" care, and start paying,  
>>> out
>>> in the open, for it. What we have in Massachusetts works, and it is
>>> certainly not free. Massachusetts, certainly one of the most liberal
>>> states in the country, looks the most fiscally responsible when it
>>> comes to paying for health care.
>>>
>>> Best regards, Meilleures salutations, 此致敬礼, Mit freundlichen
>>> Grüßen,
>>>   Con i migliori saluti, مع أطيب التحيات, Cordiales
>>> saludos, के साथ सबसे अच्छा  
>>> संबंध
>>> है,
>>>   A mais melhor consideraçāo, によろしく
>>>
>>> -Ian.
>>>
>>> Ian Duff | 38 Grove Street | New Bedford | Massachusetts | 02740 |  
>>> USA
>>> V: +1 (508) 717-8058 | E: ian at inside-overlap.com | F: +1 (801)  
>>> 335-1661
>>>
>>> Think Green!  Please do not print this e-mail unless absolutely
>>> necessary.
>>>
>>> On 25 Jul, 2009, at 01:18, djdawson2 at aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm afraid I'm distraught as well.? Think health care is expensive
>>>> now?? Just wait 'til it's "free."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: David Kase <dkase at dorma-usa.com>
>>>> To: airbil <airbil at gmail.com>; s-car-list at audifans.com
>>>> Sent: Fri, Jul 24, 2009 9:23 pm
>>>> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Libs are even hacking into our little haven
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I will take the flaming - I asked for it.
>>>>
>>>> Will this car be crushed?  I think so.  What a shame.
>>>>
>>>> This is so wrong on so many levels.  I'm one of those conservative
>>>> nut jobs.
>>>>
>>>> No offense to Bob, just the opportunity offered to him.
>>>>
>>>> Kase
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: airbil [mailto:airbil at gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Fri 7/24/2009 11:17 PM
>>>> To: s-car-list at audifans.com
>>>> Cc: David Kase
>>>> Subject: [s-cars] Libs are even hacking into our little haven
>>>>
>>>> Dave,Dave,Dave,
>>>> You've got some stinkin' thinkin' goin' on there.
>>>> Are you complaining about "the man" taking money from you to give  
>>>> to
>>>> Bob Smith to induce him to dump a car he otherwise might have  
>>>> kept?...
>>>> So he will buy a new car from Govt Motors?
>>>> Or, are you complaining about Bob selling his soul for $4500 stolen
>>>> from his fellow countrymen?
>>>> Either way, resistance is futile.
>>>> Had you had the opportunity, you may have decided to take your  
>>>> dough
>>>> and decide for yourself what to do with it.
>>>> Dave, Dave, Dave.
>>>> It's well known that you would just blow it on go fast stupidness  
>>>> and
>>>> possibly a bommaking biz... or something that actually helps the
>>>> economy.
>>>> Bill~Quixote~M
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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