[s-cars] Libs are even hacking into our little haven

Ian Duff ian at inside-overlap.com
Sat Jul 25 06:38:41 PDT 2009 

Apologies to all. Just realized the original thread got hijacked, and  
I was a prime offender for taking this list into contentious political  
directions. No more posts on this thread to the list from me. Feel  
free to continue off list. Sorry.

Best regards, Meilleures salutations, 此致敬礼, Mit freundlichen  
Grüßen,
   Con i migliori saluti, مع أطيب التحيات, Cordiales  
saludos, के साथ सबसे अच्छा संबंध  
है,
   A mais melhor consideraçāo, によろしく

-Ian.

Ian Duff | 38 Grove Street | New Bedford | Massachusetts | 02740 | USA
V: +1 (508) 717-8058 | E: ian at inside-overlap.com | F: +1 (801) 335-1661

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On 25 Jul, 2009, at 09:36, Ian Duff wrote:

> Sarcasm noted.
>
> I suspect that even government can do a better job of paying for  
> healthcare for the millions of uninsured who choose to get their  
> free healthcare via ambulance from the local ED. For hangnails,  
> menstrual cramps and migraines. Many times a day. All over the  
> place. Even a wildly inefficient government program would be far  
> superior to this mess. Get the costs and payments out into the light  
> of day, and we can see where we stand. With the uninsured gaming the  
> system, that's impossible, and reduces our public health.
>
> High cost, inefficient. I'm not talking about the anticipated/ 
> dreaded government system, I'm talking about right now.
>
> Best regards, Meilleures salutations, 此致敬礼, Mit freundlichen  
> Grüßen,
>   Con i migliori saluti, مع أطيب التحيات, Cordiales  
> saludos, के साथ सबसे अच्छा  
> संबंध है,
>   A mais melhor consideraçāo, によろしく
>
> -Ian.
>
> Ian Duff | 38 Grove Street | New Bedford | Massachusetts | 02740 | USA
> V: +1 (508) 717-8058 | E: ian at inside-overlap.com | F: +1 (801)  
> 335-1661
>
> Think Green!  Please do not print this e-mail unless absolutely  
> necessary.
>
> On 25 Jul, 2009, at 09:25, Wylie Bean wrote:
>
>> Sorry Pizzo, you didn't earn your "brown shirt" this morning...
>> But please, keep trying.  One day you'll realize that the  
>> government can, and will, just do it better.....
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Wylie Bean
>> TheRingmeister at triad.rr.com
>> 90 cq
>> 91 90q20v
>> 92 UrS4
>> 08 Q7 3.6
>> Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: joe.pizzimenti at gmail.com
>>
>> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:09:42
>> To: Ian Duff<iduff at comcast.net>; <s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com>;  
>> <djdawson2 at aol.com>
>> Cc: <airbil at gmail.com>; <s-car-list at audifans.com>
>> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Libs are even hacking into our little haven
>>
>>
>> What work in MA won't necessarily work nationwide.  What is being  
>> proposed now is turning the current competitive free market system  
>> into a single payer system while the MA system simply penalizes  
>> those that do not have coverage.  All existing plans will not be  
>> able to add any new members once the new system is integrated.   
>> This doesn't even touch upon the simple fact that we, as a nation,  
>> simply can not afford any additional taxation if the economy is to  
>> come out of this recession. Putting the onus on employers to pay  
>> for healthcare will only lead to more layoffs in addition to  
>> putting a lot of people on the private insurer benefits side  
>> completely out of work.
>>
>> While it would be nice, we really can't afford to do it without  
>> increasing taxes, which will hinder any ability we had to get out  
>> of the current mess we're in.  If I had 20 employees with an  
>> overall payroll cost of 2MM & I now have to provide healthcare to  
>> all employees, I am either going to reduce the number of employees  
>> or reduce profit.
>>
>> That's an easy decision.
>>
>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ian Duff <iduff at comcast.net>
>>
>> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 08:28:14
>> To: <djdawson2 at aol.com>
>> Cc: <s-car-list at audifans.com>; <airbil at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Libs are even hacking into our little haven
>>
>>
>> It is already free for the millions of uninsured. That's why it's so
>> expensive for the rest of us, because we have to pay, right now,  
>> every
>> day, for the existing "free" care. Let's get some fiscal
>> responsibility, and eliminate this "free" care, and start paying, out
>> in the open, for it. What we have in Massachusetts works, and it is
>> certainly not free. Massachusetts, certainly one of the most liberal
>> states in the country, looks the most fiscally responsible when it
>> comes to paying for health care.
>>
>> Best regards, Meilleures salutations, 此致敬礼, Mit freundlichen
>> Grüßen,
>>   Con i migliori saluti, مع أطيب التحيات, Cordiales
>> saludos, के साथ सबसे अच्छा  
>> संबंध
>> है,
>>   A mais melhor consideraçāo, によろしく
>>
>> -Ian.
>>
>> Ian Duff | 38 Grove Street | New Bedford | Massachusetts | 02740 |  
>> USA
>> V: +1 (508) 717-8058 | E: ian at inside-overlap.com | F: +1 (801)  
>> 335-1661
>>
>> Think Green!  Please do not print this e-mail unless absolutely
>> necessary.
>>
>> On 25 Jul, 2009, at 01:18, djdawson2 at aol.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I'm afraid I'm distraught as well.? Think health care is expensive
>>> now?? Just wait 'til it's "free."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: David Kase <dkase at dorma-usa.com>
>>> To: airbil <airbil at gmail.com>; s-car-list at audifans.com
>>> Sent: Fri, Jul 24, 2009 9:23 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Libs are even hacking into our little haven
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I will take the flaming - I asked for it.
>>>
>>> Will this car be crushed?  I think so.  What a shame.
>>>
>>> This is so wrong on so many levels.  I'm one of those conservative
>>> nut jobs.
>>>
>>> No offense to Bob, just the opportunity offered to him.
>>>
>>> Kase
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: airbil [mailto:airbil at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Fri 7/24/2009 11:17 PM
>>> To: s-car-list at audifans.com
>>> Cc: David Kase
>>> Subject: [s-cars] Libs are even hacking into our little haven
>>>
>>> Dave,Dave,Dave,
>>> You've got some stinkin' thinkin' goin' on there.
>>> Are you complaining about "the man" taking money from you to give to
>>> Bob Smith to induce him to dump a car he otherwise might have  
>>> kept?...
>>> So he will buy a new car from Govt Motors?
>>> Or, are you complaining about Bob selling his soul for $4500 stolen
>>> from his fellow countrymen?
>>> Either way, resistance is futile.
>>> Had you had the opportunity, you may have decided to take your dough
>>> and decide for yourself what to do with it.
>>> Dave, Dave, Dave.
>>> It's well known that you would just blow it on go fast stupidness  
>>> and
>>> possibly a bommaking biz... or something that actually helps the
>>> economy.
>>> Bill~Quixote~M
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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