[s-cars] 964s are generally bad

[Taka Mizutani]

Gotta agree with Cody about 911 engine rates- the whole thing just drops
down, it's not a big deal to pull the engine out of a 911. Much, much easier
than a 944 Turbo or a Corvette.

My mechanic can do it in about 3 hrs., he's quick- he's had about as much
practice pulling the transmission out of his personal 911 as Bill M. doing
the S6. :-)

Seriously though, $15k sounds like the engine should have been a 3.8L by
then, with a 5-angle valve job, flowtested, along with cams and headers.

That's why I still haven't gotten a P-car- if I put $15k into the Vette, I'd
have a 550 usable rwhp high-revving 427 under the hood, built by someone
like Katech, Lingenfelter or better. $17k rebuild is just ridiculous.

Taka


On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 12:01 AM, Cody Forbes <cody at 5000tq.com> wrote:

> I hate to say this, but unless either there was some confusion as to
> the definition of "pulling the engine" or your buddy got seriously
> ripped off. Any half wit that's ever touched a 911/964/993/996 can
> have the engine out in 3 hours, maybe 4 tops. Factor the same to re-
> install and even at dealership labor rates we are talking under a grand.
>
> Just a few days ago I did a 3.2l Carrera clutch and rear main seal.
> Started first thing in the morning and test drove the car at just a
> few mnutes before 5pm. 964 would have maybe taken 15 more minutes.
>
> -Cody
> Sent from my iPod
>
> On May 14, 2009, at 8:25 PM, Theodore Chen <tedebearp at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > it depends on where you are.  san francisco bay area tends to be
> > significantly more expensive.
> >
> > $17k is what my friend paid in sacramento, and he didn't even get
> > many upgrades.  doing the minimum amount would have been a little
> > under $15k.  i was shocked that the shop charged him several
> > thousand dollars just to pull the engine.  i can have an engine swap
> > done in the mustang for $1k.
> >
> > cool that you're using an ipod for email, by the way.  are you
> > finding a lot of free wi-fi connections?
> >
> > From: Cody Forbes <cody at 5000tq.com>
> > To: Jack Walker <jack at walkerperformancegroup.com>
> > Cc: "<s-car-list at audifans.com>" <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 4:13:12 PM
> > Subject: Re: [s-cars] 964s are generally bad
> >
> > IMHO 15k is way too much. We usually charge under 10k unless there's
> > major bits broken or damaged.
> >
> > -Cody
> > Sent from my iPod
> >
> > On May 14, 2009, at 4:37 PM, "Jack Walker" <
> jack at walkerperformancegroup.com
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > I believe that was the model that Porsche engineers had some "help"
> > > redesigning the sealing of the head to the barrel.without the o-
> > > rings that
> > > fit into the head, as they had been using previously?
> > >
> > > 15K to rebuild is right on! I was looking at one just the other day
> > > at my
> > > local wrench's shop and he said yeah really cool car.if it's been
> > > rebuilt,
> > > new barrels, pistons, heads, cause yah might as well go bigger when
> > > it's all
> > > apart.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jack Walker
> > >
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