[s-cars] speed vs. weight, 10 kilos and 0.4 seconds & Mahoney JNR ersatz M3 CSL

[Ian Duff]

That wasn't derision. First, sounds like he did a good thing with the  
cf. I'm left wondering why in an Evo, that's all. There's prolly a  
good reason, like the class it's in has a current speed record of  
98.432 mph, or something similar. Lacking that explanation left me  
wondering, as I posted. Sorry if you took it as derision. I am usually  
much clearer with my sarcasm if such is warranted, not so in this  
case, just seeking more info.
-Ian Duff.

On 15 May, 2009, at 23:09, Joe Pizzimenti wrote:

> Not much steel left except for the intricate cage that he did.
>
> As for why he's doing it, why not?  It hasn't been done before & he
> has made the requisite aero mods as well to make it move across the
> salt.  It's an insane piece of engineering.  Dry sump, liquid to air
> intercooler, really trick high rpm shortblock, basically every old
> racing trick in the book.  It's a Mitsubishi oin name only at this
> point.
>
> Deride it all you want.  Fact of the matter is, it takes huge cojones
> to drive anything 200mph, much less building a car basically from
> scratch for it.  It takes significantly less cojones to make cute
> little analogies from behind a keyboard.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 5/15/09, Ian Duff <iduff at comcast.net> wrote:
>> If he used even moderately modern adhesive to glue the new cf panels
>> to the remaining structure, I would think the new structure would be
>> stronger than before.
>>
>> Yep, he lobotomized the old steel unibody, leaving potentially a new
>> Gumby structure. However, sounds like the steel got replaced with cf.
>> So, instead of lobotomizing it, he pulled a $6 million dollar man  
>> on it.
>>
>> Why is still up in the air, as the evo is about as aerodynamically
>> slick as a locomotive, not terribly conducive to speed records. Lotsa
>> downforce makes for great rally performance, but not so great
>> Bonneville runs. Kinda like the dude who puts a $2500 stereo in a  
>> $500
>> beater, or the convenience store who uses $20K worth of video
>> surveillance gear to ensure $20 worth of junk food remains on the
>> shelves.
>>
>> -Ian Duff.
>>
>> On 15 May, 2009, at 20:46, Taka Mizutani wrote:
>>
>>> I hope that Evo is basically a tube frame silhouette car- your buddy
>>> took
>>> out damn near everything in the uni body. Or are you just talking
>>> about the
>>> outer skins? Even so...... that's scary.
>>>
>>> Better not crash that thing.
>>>
>>> Taka
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Theodore Chen <tedebearp at yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> wow, that's spec miata weight.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: Joe Pizzimenti <joe.pizzimenti at gmail.com>
>>>> To: Michael Lardizabal <mikellardizabal at yahoo.com>
>>>> Cc: wmahoney at disk.com; mlped at q.com; s-car-list at audifans.com;
>>>> pkrasusky at ups.com
>>>> Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 2:35:27 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [s-cars] speed vs. weight, 10 kilos and 0.4 seconds &
>>>> Mahoney
>>>> JNR  ersatz M3 CSL
>>>>
>>>> I just took a ride the other day in a friend's Evo that has carbon
>>>> doors,
>>>> roof, fenders & every light weight thing you can do down to a fuel
>>>> cell &
>>>> the final dry weight with cage is 2217 pounds.  From about 3300 or
>>>> so.
>>>>
>>>> He plans to hit Bonneville in August to set some sort of stupid
>>>> record with
>>>> the damned thing.  I'll keep youse guys in the loop.  It should
>>>> either be
>>>> fast or spectacular or both.
>>>>
>>>> Pizzo
>>>>
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