[s-cars] speed vs. weight, 10 kilos and 0.4 seconds & Mahoney JNR ersatz M3 CSL

[Joe Pizzimenti]

The goal is 235mph at Bonneville.

I'll post pics next week.

On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Ian Duff <iduff at comcast.net> wrote:

> That wasn't derision. First, sounds like he did a good thing with the cf.
> I'm left wondering why in an Evo, that's all. There's prolly a good reason,
> like the class it's in has a current speed record of 98.432 mph, or
> something similar. Lacking that explanation left me wondering, as I posted.
> Sorry if you took it as derision. I am usually much clearer with my sarcasm
> if such is warranted, not so in this case, just seeking more info.
> -Ian Duff.
>
>
> On 15 May, 2009, at 23:09, Joe Pizzimenti wrote:
>
>  Not much steel left except for the intricate cage that he did.
>>
>> As for why he's doing it, why not?  It hasn't been done before & he
>> has made the requisite aero mods as well to make it move across the
>> salt.  It's an insane piece of engineering.  Dry sump, liquid to air
>> intercooler, really trick high rpm shortblock, basically every old
>> racing trick in the book.  It's a Mitsubishi oin name only at this
>> point.
>>
>> Deride it all you want.  Fact of the matter is, it takes huge cojones
>> to drive anything 200mph, much less building a car basically from
>> scratch for it.  It takes significantly less cojones to make cute
>> little analogies from behind a keyboard.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/15/09, Ian Duff <iduff at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> If he used even moderately modern adhesive to glue the new cf panels
>>> to the remaining structure, I would think the new structure would be
>>> stronger than before.
>>>
>>> Yep, he lobotomized the old steel unibody, leaving potentially a new
>>> Gumby structure. However, sounds like the steel got replaced with cf.
>>> So, instead of lobotomizing it, he pulled a $6 million dollar man on it.
>>>
>>> Why is still up in the air, as the evo is about as aerodynamically
>>> slick as a locomotive, not terribly conducive to speed records. Lotsa
>>> downforce makes for great rally performance, but not so great
>>> Bonneville runs. Kinda like the dude who puts a $2500 stereo in a $500
>>> beater, or the convenience store who uses $20K worth of video
>>> surveillance gear to ensure $20 worth of junk food remains on the
>>> shelves.
>>>
>>> -Ian Duff.
>>>
>>> On 15 May, 2009, at 20:46, Taka Mizutani wrote:
>>>
>>>  I hope that Evo is basically a tube frame silhouette car- your buddy
>>>> took
>>>> out damn near everything in the uni body. Or are you just talking
>>>> about the
>>>> outer skins? Even so...... that's scary.
>>>>
>>>> Better not crash that thing.
>>>>
>>>> Taka
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Theodore Chen <tedebearp at yahoo.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  wow, that's spec miata weight.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: Joe Pizzimenti <joe.pizzimenti at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: Michael Lardizabal <mikellardizabal at yahoo.com>
>>>>> Cc: wmahoney at disk.com; mlped at q.com; s-car-list at audifans.com;
>>>>> pkrasusky at ups.com
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 2:35:27 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [s-cars] speed vs. weight, 10 kilos and 0.4 seconds &
>>>>> Mahoney
>>>>> JNR  ersatz M3 CSL
>>>>>
>>>>> I just took a ride the other day in a friend's Evo that has carbon
>>>>> doors,
>>>>> roof, fenders & every light weight thing you can do down to a fuel
>>>>> cell &
>>>>> the final dry weight with cage is 2217 pounds.  From about 3300 or
>>>>> so.
>>>>>
>>>>> He plans to hit Bonneville in August to set some sort of stupid
>>>>> record with
>>>>> the damned thing.  I'll keep youse guys in the loop.  It should
>>>>> either be
>>>>> fast or spectacular or both.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pizzo
>>>>>
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