[s-cars] Snow tires again

[LL - NY]

The *rumor* is that the General Artic Altimax is the Gislaved Nordfrost 3
(previous gen of the current Nordfrost 5, BTW, the 3 is also a studdable,
traditional snow). After reading the reviews on TireRack, and Consumer
Reports, I went for them, even if their compound isn't the same as the
Nordfrost 3, since they still seem subjectively (well CU wouldn't be
subjective, where it placed a very, very close 2nd to the Michelin Ice-X)
excellent in their winter performance, and I'm not doing Rally-X or Ice-X
competition. For Taka's purposes, they'd be way too aggressively snow
biased, the tread pattern appears to be the same, and it's a good old
traditional full-on snow. The tire Taka would want (this is from Gislaved's
website) is the Nordfrost 2, but Greg Galinsky assured me that they aren't
available in the U.S.  Yup, we're screwed again.

Taka, you seemed to be pretty happy with the Dunlop Wintersport M2's that
were on your A4. Why not go for the M3?  It still way undercuts the WR-G2 in
terms of price, and you don't really need the All-Season transition period
anyway.

LL - NY

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 4:48 PM, chris chambers
<fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com>wrote:

> Taka,
>
> last fall Discount tire and Tire rack both carried the Gislaved and
> Generals.
> If you want the Gislaved nordfrtost 3 my understanding that the General is
> the same tire.
> Where as the current Gislaved nordfrost is the 4.
>
>
> But then again I am good at being wrong
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Taka Mizutani <t44tqtro at gmail.com>
> > To: s-car-list at audifans.com
> > Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 3:39:28 PM
> > Subject: [s-cars] Snow tires again
> >
> > Listers-
> > I'm in need of new snow tires for the relatively mild northeast winters
> that
> > we get here in Philadelphia.
> >
> > I've been happy with my Nokian WR for the past 4 years, but they're down
> to
> > 4/32" and it's time for a new set.
> >
> > I looked at a new set of Nokians and have seen prices of $200 per tire in
> > 225/45R17 for a WR and the latest Nokian R (which replaces or sits above
> the
> > RSi) is $300 per tire in the same size! That's getting ridiculous.
> >
> > I started looking at Gislaved- need to find a Gislaved dealer that sells
> the
> > Euro Frost 3 (I guess I can check the local Volvo dealer). The
> well-regarded
> > Nord Frost 5 is a studded snow, don't need that here.
> >
> > I'm also looking at:
> > Conti TS810S
> > Michelin Pilot Alpin PA3
> > Pirelli Winter 240 Sottozero Serie II
> > possibly the Bridgestone Blizzak LM-60 (afraid the sidewalls will be too
> > soft and the compounding will be too soft and wear very quickly)
> > possibly Dunlop SPWintersport 3D (this is the oldest design I'm looking
> at,
> > probably superceded by several generations of newer tires listed above)
> >
> > What are your experiences with a more performance-oriented snow tire? I'm
> > not looking for deep snow and ice performance, as we very very rarely get
> > those conditions here, but I'm looking for a really good studless snow
> that
> > won't get bogged down in slush and wet snow. It's going on the Volvo
> V70R,
> > which is very similar in weight and power to the UrS- roughly 4000 lbs.,
> 300
> > hp and running 17x8 wheels- need a 225/45R17 snow tire if not a 235/45.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Taka
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