[s-cars] Devil Went Down to Georgia..

[tom at tomwintermedia.com]

Thanks, Steve.

I¹ll keep saving up. Not sure why.

Obsession? I don¹t know. I¹ve never wanted to drive a ³normal² car. Maybe
that¹s why we are all here.

Cheers + Happy Holidays, everyone!

Tom Œ95 S6 Avant


On 12/16/10 8:01 PM, "Steve Mills" <s.b.mills at gmail.com> wrote:

> The RS2 being "banned" or "non-importable" is an urban legend. Search the
> NHTSA and EPA sites all you like, you will only find one mention of the RS2,
> and it's on the "Not eligible for show and display" list. For what it's worth,
> the SportQ did get added to the "good" half of list fairly recently. This
> isn't that big a deal- even if it qualified, all Show and Display gets you is
> a pass on NHTSA (safety)- the car still has to pass muster with the EPA. With
> the RS2 sharing most of it's body structure with (cheaply) available B4
> sedans, the safety part would be relatively easy, since you could retrofit
> NHTSA-approved parts, and the RS2 also got both air bags and catalytic
> converters from the factory. Some background on Show and Display is
> here: http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/import/ShowDisplay/howtosd072003.html
> 
> The only reason they're on the "bad" half of the Show and Display list is
> because Audi just built too many of them for it to have any chance of
> qualifying- anything where they built more than 500 is extremely unlikely to
> get a pass, and something around 2,500 RS2s were built.
> 
> So, if anyone really wants to legally bring in an RS2, they can- they just
> have to follow the normal (read: slow and expensive) process with applying for
> waivers, posting bonds, contracting and RI, and handing over anywhere from $10
> to $25K for conversion work and emissions testing.
> 
> Simple, right?
> 
> Now play nice, everyone.
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Taka Mizutani <t44tqtro at gmail.com> wrote:
>> That's actually not correct, Tom- the Audi RS2 and S2 are specifically
>> mentioned by DOT as non-importable vehicles due to their lack of historical
>> significance or something like that. Even an RI cannot Federalize one. I'm
>> also pretty sure that the cars that are specifically prohibited cannot be
>> imported under the "exhibition and show" exemption, either.
>> 
>> You won't be able to bring one in until 2019, when the blanket 25 yr. old
>> exemption allows you to import anything- the first RS2s are 1994 production.
>> 
>> Taka
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Tom Green <trgreen at comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> > If I understand things correctly, it was not a "roller" and it was not
>>> > a RS2 model vehicle.
>>> >
>>> > Those who are stating "facts" about importation of vehicles need to
>>> > add that those "facts" are only their lay person interpretation of
>>> > federal regulations and hearsay gathered from the internet, or get
>>> > some real facts from a registered importer or attorney qualified to
>>> > opine on these matters.
>>> >
>>> > These vehicles are not "banned" from importation.  But, no one said it
>>> > would be easy or inexpensive.  You just have to be willing to pay a RI
>>> > to modify the vehicle where necessary to meet all federal regulations,
>>> > certify it for EPA emissions requirements, and do all the paperwork,
>>> > And, be prepared to abandon the project if the RI finds an obstacle
>>> > they can't overcome in the time limits the feds allow.  Bringing the
>>> > vehicle to the US does not guarantee success  in federalizing it,
>>> > since those restrictions mean it is not eligible for any of the
>>> > exceptions to the rules, which is going to make it an expensive project.
>>> >
>>> > I think that means nobody here is going to legally import one to the
>>> > US for another 10 years.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Tom '95 S6
>>> >          '95.5 S6 avant
>>> > Knoxville, TN
>>> >
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