[s-cars] guilty, not guilty?

[Bares, Vittorio]

Fight all tickets, whether you have a leg to stand on or not. It reduces
revenue (creates higher costs for the city/state). Who knows, you might
get off w/a 6month probation rather than a ticket for settling over the
phone as in my case for a different moving violation...it's a business,
negotiate!

You don't actually have to show up...if it's an annoyance, before your
court date - pay the ticket - but at least you reduced the revenue in
that the process to setup a court date had to take place...

Vittorio -

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 Mr Bill
The right turn camera's use either radar or sensors to detect speed of
the right turn ('on red')...  See the sensor type here
http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=306391
The amount of 'roll' can be adjusted from a complete stop to double
digit MPH.  The law states complete stop.  Your video defines a rolling
stop IMestimation.  You can ck the dailyherald on which suburbs are
doing what with the right turn on red issues.  I suspect until banned,
even if you took that to court, that video reviewed by a judge would
clearly indicate a complete stop was not made.

My daughter got caught rolling 2 stops in Chicagoland with these
cameras.  200cash disappears from the wallet, with nothing but a crappy
video...

Cheers

Scott J


 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: chris chambers <fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com>
To: bill mahoney <airbil at gmail.com>; s-car-list at audifans.com
Sent: Thu, Jul 22, 2010 11:06 am
Subject: Re: [s-cars] guilty, not guilty?


Bill,



I can't see the light to tell where it's at, assuming they have another
way of 

knowing.

Otherwise I guess it depends on what "the man's" definition of stop is.



Personally I think Serge was behind the wheel.



Can they really hold you responsible because you are the owner if they
can't 

prove who was driving?



I despise traffic cams .... glad they aren't here in kazoo land.



Chris



 







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From: bill mahoney <airbil at gmail.com>

To: s-car-list at audifans.com

Sent: Thu, July 22, 2010 11:03:33 AM

Subject: [s-cars] guilty, not guilty?



Moral issues aside, here's a the "mans" video of me in the D2 alleged to

have run a red to the tune of a hondo US fiat bucks.

Very bizzare feeling to think back to a crime committed two weeks back
when

I can't remember 10 minutes ago.

I'll play it out and claim I stopped, but they can't even say who was

driving.

Whatcha all say?

http://flic.kr/p/8kDLsT

Bill~glad they don't ask for payment in gold~M

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