[s-cars] Red light traffic in Illinois

[JC]

For ref - a good summary of camera violation laws in various states
including answers to some of the questions being bandied ex: is registered
or driver responsible etc.
http://www.iihs.org/laws/automated_enforcement.aspx

The way we M at ssholes run yellows/reds, if they tried stoplight cameras here
I have to believe:
1. firstly the system would self-destruct from overload within a matter of
hours,
2. within days citizenry would burn the statehouse for interfering with a
man's god given right to blow through 'light red' lights.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com
> [mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of Eric Rechlin
> Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 12:13 PM
> To: s-car-list at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Red light traffic in Illinois
>
> > My wife will detour a mile to miss these intersections since she
> > apparently can't be retrained to make a complete stop; that
> entails a
> > 3 second motionless period to defeat these on the right turn lane.
>
> Wait...are you saying that even though the law in Illinois is
> that you have to make a complete stop first in order to make
> a right turn on red, the cameras are set up to give you a
> fine unless that "complete stop" lasts at least 3 seconds?
> So even if you don't break the law you can still be fined?
>
> > They have them in the other lanes as well, and they give no grace
> > period if you are in the intersection when the light turns red.
>
> In Illinois, is it illegal to enter an intersection on yellow
> if it turns red while you are in the intersection?  Or is
> that just something that will get you a fine from a red light
> camera but isn't actually illegal?  In other states that I am
> aware of, that's not illegal.
>
> This sounds really fishy to me.   How can they get away with this?
>
> In Texas, the legislature has banned any new red light
> cameras (I can't remember the reasoning; it wouldn't surprise
> me if it's because they caused an increase in the number of
> collisions), and the existing ones are not only clearly
> signed, but they take a picture of your car twice, once
> before the intersection and once after, to prove that your
> car entered the intersection on red.  If I come across them,
> when there's nobody behind me I enjoy stopping suddenly just
> before the intersection to force the first flash (I'm hoping
> that will wear out the camera faster), which seems to be
> radar-triggered, but never let it make the second.
>
> But still, I try to avoid them.  There are two on my normal
> route that I can avoid by paying a 65 cent toll, and I'd
> rather pay the toll (no toll booth -- it's an
> electronic-payment-only tollway) than take a chance at being
> rear-ended by someone because I chose to stop for the light to avoid a
> $75 fine.
>
> Regards,
>
> Eric Rechlin
>
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