[s-cars] Need one Dunlop

[LL - NY]

In the damp, or even on wet pavement (so long as there isn't too much
standing water), if it's warm enough to be in shirt sleeves, DOT-R's will
consistently out stick and be more controllable than streets. Basically, if
there is any question at all, go DOT-R's. This is for autocross. I wouldn't
make the same choice where hydroplaning would have actual serious
consequences (i.e. HPDE's), but even on higher speed autocrosses, (like 3rd
gear stuff) it would seem compounding trumps evacuation channels, time after
time. Even the editors of Road and Track found this out in one of their
single brand comparos a couple of summers ago.

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Lee Levitt <lee at wheelman.com> wrote:

> Larry,
>
> Agreed!
>
> I not only autocross them but if I were at a DE in the rain, I'd
> be running them on the track.
>
> I'm doing my best to wear out an old set of Dunlop R compound
> tires so I can mount my new G-Force slicks. The Direzza will see
> less autocross time...although on Saturday with iffy weather, I
> mounted and then unmounted the old Dunlops before I took a run.
> Probably should have left them on...the course was damp but not
> really wet and the Direzzas didn't heat up at all.
>
> In any event, a new tire was $160 + shaving from TireRack. My
> local guy said the following: "2 years ago you paid $210 per tire
> for the Direzzas. Prices have gone up and now they're $220."
>
> Oh really? Consumer commodity pricing going up? And they couldn't
> shave them for me. Doh. (and this is the *good* shop in Boston).
>
> Lee
>
> On Thu Jun 17 11:12:45 CDT 2010, LL - NY <larrycleung at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Lee autocrosses those tires.  Sidewalls flex. Alot. Worse so,
> > (and heavily
> > loaded if on course, particularly if they are grippy tires like
> > the Z1 SS)
> > if the tires are being worked hard.  I doubt a patch could safely
> > hold, AND
> > it would be difficult (without a destructive investigation, which
> > negates
> > the purpose) to determine the integrity of the sidewall belts
> > from a
> > sidewall puncture. Not worth the risk, IMHO.
> >
>  > On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:06 AM, David Giannandrea <
> > david.giannandrea at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Although the tire shops will always recommend a new tire when
> >> the sidewall
> >> is punctured, I have never had a problem with patching them.
> >> Especially in
> >> your case with the tire 50% gone, the patch doesn't have to last
> >> a
> >> lifetime.
> >>
> >> Patch it.
> >>
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