[s-cars] Purchase S8

Wed Nov 10 13:59:24 PST 2010

What should one look for and look out for in the early 2000 S8s?  Greg ;

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>    1. Re:  I will NOT buy MORE UNDERTRAY Hardware! (Tom Green)
>    2.  Rear passenger window difficulty (Jim Fleischer)
>    3.  DC Area VAG Cable? (Mark Pollan)
>    4.   Rear passenger window difficulty (Bill Mahoney)
>    5. Re:  Rear passenger window difficulty (Hap Maguire)
>    6.  That time O year again (bill mahoney)
>    7. Re:  That time O year again (David Kase)
>    8. Re:  Rear passenger window difficulty (Jim Fleischer)
>    9. Re:  Rear passenger window difficulty (Bill Mahoney)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 15:59:43 -0500
> From: Tom Green <trgreen at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] I will NOT buy MORE UNDERTRAY Hardware!
> To: s-car-list at audifans.com
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> I don't need any old fashioned bolts that any monkey lad can put in
> without understanding how they work.  He would probably cross-thread
> them.  However, no monkey lad is going to get the chance.
>
> Those 1/4 turn fasteners actually are genuine Dzus fasteners covered
> under the original patent and still used to fasten aircraft panels.
> Before the clamshell engine nacelle was designed, there would be about
> 100 on each engine nacelle, and the high-paid mechanics could never
> fasten them all, but I think 5 is not asking too much.
>
> If the aircraft came in the shop with 5 or 10 bad fasteners and it
> wasn't on the work order for repair they went out the door the same
> way unless they were all on the leading edge or something else
> critical.  With only 5 metal fasteners doing the structural work,
> missing fasteners become critical very quickly.  Losing the pan on the
> highway can be as dangerous as an airplane losing a panel inflight.
>
> Tom '95 S6
>           '95.5 S6 avant
> Knoxville, TN
>
>
> On Tuesday November 9, 2010, at 12:52 PM, Scott J <QSHIPQ at aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>> OK - I`m sure theres something I`m missing...  Oh yea the obvious -
>> the attachment design of the urs underbelly tray sucks!  BMW uses
>> screws. Volvo and mercedes use screws - Audi used to use screws.
>> And without fail in the last 15 years -the first response I get
>> informing a customer hardware is missing - ` I just replaced those
>> (again)!`  POS
>>
>> I have two v8 quattros in my driveway - both with the original pans
>> and original hardware.  The only reason why in my book?  They use
>> good old fashioned shouldered bolts to attach the tray - just like
>> the `other` guys do.  Why?  Cuz it works.  They don`t release under
>> vibration shift and sheer forces, and any monkey lad can pu them in
>> without understanding how they work.
>>
>> What holds the pan on are not `dzuz` fasteners (those actually might
>> work) they are turn-type fasteners that go into some easily deformed
>> receivers.  The plastic pos`s on the wheel wells crackwith heat age
>> and a half hearted bump to the front bumper.
>>
>> I used to stock a half dozen sets of hardware - I stopped doing that
>> years ago - cuz charging for them became a pita.  Fixing the broken
>> or missing pieces became a free service....  So I stopped and just
>> install whats there and put good 3M zip ties where the missing parts
>> were.  Fully zip-tied pans tested btw - without mentioning names -
>> fully imbedded in steamboats magnetic snowbanks....
>>
>> To aluminum - i work on a B5 S4 with a killer aluminum plate made
>> and sold by Armadillo Armor Systems...  Has all the cooling ducts
>> and it attaches securely with some beefy bolt type hardware.  Pricey
>> but really well made.
>>
>> I`m all for reinstalling the correct hardware where I find it on the
>> tray/body.  I also have absolutley no problem cutting off and
>> reinstalling good zip ties.  To those hardcore purists fighting
>> diligently to retain the original crappy Audi design?  Here`s a
>> budweiser toast to you...  Mr. Useless Audi Hardware Ordinance
>> buying guy!
>>
>> :)
>>
>> Scott J
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 15:01:22 -0700
> From: "Jim Fleischer" <jim at almgt.com>
> Subject: [s-cars] Rear passenger window difficulty
> To: <s-car-list at audifans.com>
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> Hey all,
>
> Had a difficult time getting my rear passenger window to go up this
> afternoon.  It would go down just fine, just not up.  Turned the car off,
> let it sit a second, and tried the "key in the lock and put windows up"
> method to no avail.  Went back in, turned on the key and on the third or
> fourth try the window finally engaged.  Now that it is closed, and with
> winter coming to Colorado today, I didn't want to test it again.
> Question.......is this a sign my regulator is on the way out?  Is it a
> switch?  Maybe just an "Audi Electrical Thing" that is of no consequence
> until it happens again and doesn't "right" itself?
>
> Needless to say, I will not be too confident in using that window this
> winter!  Thanks in advance for the insight.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Jim Fleischer
> '95 s6 avant
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 19:29:36 -0500
> From: "Mark Pollan" <mpollan1 at aol.com>
> Subject: [s-cars] DC Area VAG Cable?
> To: "'S-CAR list'" <s-car-list at audifans.com>
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> G'day Gents, I have the Hex cable for the older model Audis but a buddy with
> a D3 wants to lower his air ride equipped machine.  My cable does not
> interface with the D3.  Can anybody lend a hand?  He offered to pay for the
> upgrade of the cable but at $160 that seems a bit much for this sole
> purpose.
>
>
>
> Any leads/offers of help are much appreciated.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 10:52:41 -0600
> From: "Bill Mahoney" <wmahoney at disk.com>
> Subject: [s-cars]  Rear passenger window difficulty
> To: <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> Cc: jim at almgt.com
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> Jim,
>
> Oh yeah, now is a good time to investigate unless you don't open it during
> winter?
>
> It could just need cleaning an lubing.  Taking off the panel for a looksee
> is not a big deal.
>
> I had one cable wear out / fray and ultimately jamb, but the motor was fine.
>
> This just one of them perpetual restoration items.
>
> Lube the door lock mechanism whilst in there.
>
> Have fun.  Report back.
>
> Bill~up n down, as needed~M
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 09:57:43 -0700
> From: Hap Maguire <captmagu at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Rear passenger window difficulty
> To: "Bill Mahoney" <wmahoney at disk.com>
> Cc: jim at almgt.com, s-car-list at audifans.com
> Message-ID: <D197793C-5E5D-4BA9-85A0-E286B4BE64E1 at gmail.com>
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> Hey Flasherman and of course Mr. Balooneytunes
>
> It is not required to drop da tranny whilst investigating dis window
> shennanighans. Just don't ask Balooney about dat one.
>
> Hap. wit dakine fun not from Evahboost, Maguire
>
>
> On Nov 10, 2010, at 9:52 AM, Bill Mahoney wrote:
>
>> Jim,
>>
>> Oh yeah, now is a good time to investigate unless you don't open it during
>> winter?
>>
>> It could just need cleaning an lubing.  Taking off the panel for a looksee
>> is not a big deal.
>>
>> I had one cable wear out / fray and ultimately jamb, but the motor was
>> fine.
>>
>> This just one of them perpetual restoration items.
>>
>> Lube the door lock mechanism whilst in there.
>>
>> Have fun.  Report back.
>>
>> Bill~up n down, as needed~M
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 10:58:08 -0600
> From: bill mahoney <airbil at gmail.com>
> Subject: [s-cars] That time O year again
> To: s-car-list at audifans.com
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> Now in video the Making of the '11 Pirelli Tire calendar.
> Pirelli makes tires that fit on many Audi's.
> How much more fun could a photo shoot be?
> http://jalopnik.com/5459674/the-nsfw-not+so+tire+related-making-of-the-2010-pirelli-calendar
> Bill~touting good things for '11~M
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 12:23:12 -0500
> From: David Kase <dbkase at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] That time O year again
> To: bill mahoney <airbil at gmail.com>
> Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
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> You think they would put that one model in a set of new 20" P-zeros instead
> of some worn out 15" all-seasons?!?!?!?!
>
> bOObies..
>
> thx bm,
> dbk
>
> On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 11:58 AM, bill mahoney <airbil at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Now in video the Making of the '11 Pirelli Tire calendar.
>> Pirelli makes tires that fit on many Audi's.
>> How much more fun could a photo shoot be?
>>
>> http://jalopnik.com/5459674/the-nsfw-not+so+tire+related-making-of-the-2010-pirelli-calendar
>> Bill~touting good things for '11~M
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 10:23:13 -0700
> From: "Jim Fleischer" <jim at almgt.com>
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Rear passenger window difficulty
> To: "Bill Mahoney" <wmahoney at disk.com>, <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> Message-ID: <D13E16AF1DE24E7DB651640A84437A58 at jim5fc968a6e6a>
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> Thanks Bill,
>
> Anything I should keep an eye out for regarding taking the panel off.....any
> clips or little plastic bits that I need to be aware of so I don't break
> them when pulling and tugging to get it off after I "think" I've got all the
> screws out?
>
> What is the proper lube for this?  Lithium grease?
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Jim
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Bill Mahoney
>   To: s-car-list at audifans.com
>   Cc: jim at almgt.com
>   Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 9:52 AM
>   Subject: [s-cars] Rear passenger window difficulty
>
>
>   Jim,
>
>   Oh yeah, now is a good time to investigate unless you don't open it during
> winter?
>
>   It could just need cleaning an lubing.  Taking off the panel for a looksee
> is not a big deal.
>
>   I had one cable wear out / fray and ultimately jamb, but the motor was
> fine.
>
>   This just one of them perpetual restoration items.
>
>   Lube the door lock mechanism whilst in there.
>
>   Have fun.  Report back.
>
>   Bill~up n down, as needed~M
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 12:46:54 -0600
> From: "Bill Mahoney" <wmahoney at disk.com>
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Rear passenger window difficulty
> To: "'Jim Fleischer'" <jim at almgt.com>,	<s-car-list at audifans.com>
> Message-ID: <064a01cb8107$a51f09a0$ef5d1ce0$@com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
>
> Jim,
>
> Oh, so you haven't done this before?  Lucky you then.
>
> Maybe someone has a link to the door panel removal handy?  If not just
> google 95 a6 or s6 door panel removal.
>
> I don't recall if there is a hidden screw behind the inside door handle but
> there may be one?  Other than that it's pretty straight forward.
>
> Unscrew door pin and all screws and unhook the latch inside from the handle
> and pull the panel up to remove it.   Search though cuz I am sure there are
> pics somewhere.
>
> For lubricant, my all around preference is Kroil Penephite
> http://www.kanolabs.com/
>
> Google around for best price.  This is the only stuff I know that will work
> on door hinges.
>
> Also good for the key locks and of course lock mechanisms.  Uber micro
> graphite and other elixirs do the trick.
>
> Removing the window regulator is not so daunting as it looks either.
>
> Pay attention to a shim in the front and mark its position for reassembly.
>
> It's possible the lubricant in the winder has simply dried out making slow,
> difficult operation.  For this would try spraying some WD40 inside and
> rolling the window up and down a million times while grabbing the glass and
> helping it along.
>
> Take the panel off and diagnose the issue so you can have the replacement
> parts on hand before taking the whole regulator out though.
>
> Once you've finished all this you can move on to change your fuel pump, fuel
> lines and heater coreJ
>
> Good luck!
>
> Bill~w/at least no tranny issues for 6 years nowJ~M
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Jim Fleischer [mailto:jim at almgt.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 11:23 AM
> To: Bill Mahoney; s-car-list at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Rear passenger window difficulty
>
>
>
> Thanks Bill,
>
>
>
> Anything I should keep an eye out for regarding taking the panel off.....any
> clips or little plastic bits that I need to be aware of so I don't break
> them when pulling and tugging to get it off after I "think" I've got all the
> screws out?
>
>
>
> What is the proper lube for this?  Lithium grease?
>
>
>
> Thanks again,
>
>
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Bill Mahoney <mailto:wmahoney at disk.com>
>
> To: s-car-list at audifans.com
>
> Cc: jim at almgt.com
>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 9:52 AM
>
> Subject: [s-cars] Rear passenger window difficulty
>
>
>
> Jim,
>
> Oh yeah, now is a good time to investigate unless you don't open it during
> winter?
>
> It could just need cleaning an lubing.  Taking off the panel for a looksee
> is not a big deal.
>
> I had one cable wear out / fray and ultimately jamb, but the motor was fine.
>
> This just one of them perpetual restoration items.
>
> Lube the door lock mechanism whilst in there.
>
> Have fun.  Report back.
>
> Bill~up n down, as needed~M
>
>
>
>
>
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