[s-cars] Purchase S8
Robert Myers
bob at chips-ur-s.com
Wed Nov 10 14:33:50 PST 2010
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Uh... REOs? ;-)
Bob
At 04:59 PM 11/10/2010, Greg Johnson wrote:
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>What should one look for and look out for in the early 2000 S8s? Greg ;
>
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> > 1. Re: I will NOT buy MORE UNDERTRAY Hardware! (Tom Green)
> > 2. Rear passenger window difficulty (Jim Fleischer)
> > 3. DC Area VAG Cable? (Mark Pollan)
> > 4. Rear passenger window difficulty (Bill Mahoney)
> > 5. Re: Rear passenger window difficulty (Hap Maguire)
> > 6. That time O year again (bill mahoney)
> > 7. Re: That time O year again (David Kase)
> > 8. Re: Rear passenger window difficulty (Jim Fleischer)
> > 9. Re: Rear passenger window difficulty (Bill Mahoney)
> >
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> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 15:59:43 -0500
> > From: Tom Green <trgreen at comcast.net>
> > Subject: Re: [s-cars] I will NOT buy MORE UNDERTRAY Hardware!
> > To: s-car-list at audifans.com
> > Message-ID: <49BA8F43-A6D3-490B-B3F2-57A9F9CA0541 at comcast.net>
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> >
> > I don't need any old fashioned bolts that any monkey lad can put in
> > without understanding how they work. He would probably cross-thread
> > them. However, no monkey lad is going to get the chance.
> >
> > Those 1/4 turn fasteners actually are genuine Dzus fasteners covered
> > under the original patent and still used to fasten aircraft panels.
> > Before the clamshell engine nacelle was designed, there would be about
> > 100 on each engine nacelle, and the high-paid mechanics could never
> > fasten them all, but I think 5 is not asking too much.
> >
> > If the aircraft came in the shop with 5 or 10 bad fasteners and it
> > wasn't on the work order for repair they went out the door the same
> > way unless they were all on the leading edge or something else
> > critical. With only 5 metal fasteners doing the structural work,
> > missing fasteners become critical very quickly. Losing the pan on the
> > highway can be as dangerous as an airplane losing a panel inflight.
> >
> > Tom '95 S6
> > '95.5 S6 avant
> > Knoxville, TN
> >
> >
> > On Tuesday November 9, 2010, at 12:52 PM, Scott J <QSHIPQ at aol.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> OK - I`m sure theres something I`m missing... Oh yea the obvious -
> >> the attachment design of the urs underbelly tray sucks! BMW uses
> >> screws. Volvo and mercedes use screws - Audi used to use screws.
> >> And without fail in the last 15 years -the first response I get
> >> informing a customer hardware is missing - ` I just replaced those
> >> (again)!` POS
> >>
> >> I have two v8 quattros in my driveway - both with the original pans
> >> and original hardware. The only reason why in my book? They use
> >> good old fashioned shouldered bolts to attach the tray - just like
> >> the `other` guys do. Why? Cuz it works. They don`t release under
> >> vibration shift and sheer forces, and any monkey lad can pu them in
> >> without understanding how they work.
> >>
> >> What holds the pan on are not `dzuz` fasteners (those actually might
> >> work) they are turn-type fasteners that go into some easily deformed
> >> receivers. The plastic pos`s on the wheel wells crackwith heat age
> >> and a half hearted bump to the front bumper.
> >>
> >> I used to stock a half dozen sets of hardware - I stopped doing that
> >> years ago - cuz charging for them became a pita. Fixing the broken
> >> or missing pieces became a free service.... So I stopped and just
> >> install whats there and put good 3M zip ties where the missing parts
> >> were. Fully zip-tied pans tested btw - without mentioning names -
> >> fully imbedded in steamboats magnetic snowbanks....
> >>
> >> To aluminum - i work on a B5 S4 with a killer aluminum plate made
> >> and sold by Armadillo Armor Systems... Has all the cooling ducts
> >> and it attaches securely with some beefy bolt type hardware. Pricey
> >> but really well made.
> >>
> >> I`m all for reinstalling the correct hardware where I find it on the
> >> tray/body. I also have absolutley no problem cutting off and
> >> reinstalling good zip ties. To those hardcore purists fighting
> >> diligently to retain the original crappy Audi design? Here`s a
> >> budweiser toast to you... Mr. Useless Audi Hardware Ordinance
> >> buying guy!
> >>
> >> :)
> >>
> >> Scott J
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 15:01:22 -0700
> > From: "Jim Fleischer" <jim at almgt.com>
> > Subject: [s-cars] Rear passenger window difficulty
> > To: <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> > Message-ID: <91A4FB42A496462EAAA34620C5C09192 at jim5fc968a6e6a>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Hey all,
> >
> > Had a difficult time getting my rear passenger window to go up this
> > afternoon. It would go down just fine, just not up. Turned the car off,
> > let it sit a second, and tried the "key in the lock and put windows up"
> > method to no avail. Went back in, turned on the key and on the third or
> > fourth try the window finally engaged. Now that it is closed, and with
> > winter coming to Colorado today, I didn't want to test it again.
> > Question.......is this a sign my regulator is on the way out? Is it a
> > switch? Maybe just an "Audi Electrical Thing" that is of no consequence
> > until it happens again and doesn't "right" itself?
> >
> > Needless to say, I will not be too confident in using that window this
> > winter! Thanks in advance for the insight.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Jim Fleischer
> > '95 s6 avant
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 19:29:36 -0500
> > From: "Mark Pollan" <mpollan1 at aol.com>
> > Subject: [s-cars] DC Area VAG Cable?
> > To: "'S-CAR list'" <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> > Message-ID: <201011100030.oAA0U562010929 at imr-db01.mx.aol.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > G'day Gents, I have the Hex cable for the older model Audis but a
> buddy with
> > a D3 wants to lower his air ride equipped machine. My cable does not
> > interface with the D3. Can anybody lend a hand? He offered to pay for the
> > upgrade of the cable but at $160 that seems a bit much for this sole
> > purpose.
> >
> >
> >
> > Any leads/offers of help are much appreciated.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 10:52:41 -0600
> > From: "Bill Mahoney" <wmahoney at disk.com>
> > Subject: [s-cars] Rear passenger window difficulty
> > To: <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> > Cc: jim at almgt.com
> > Message-ID: <060201cb80f7$b0a01630$11e04290$@com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > Jim,
> >
> > Oh yeah, now is a good time to investigate unless you don't open it during
> > winter?
> >
> > It could just need cleaning an lubing. Taking off the panel for a looksee
> > is not a big deal.
> >
> > I had one cable wear out / fray and ultimately jamb, but the
> motor was fine.
> >
> > This just one of them perpetual restoration items.
> >
> > Lube the door lock mechanism whilst in there.
> >
> > Have fun. Report back.
> >
> > Bill~up n down, as needed~M
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 09:57:43 -0700
> > From: Hap Maguire <captmagu at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [s-cars] Rear passenger window difficulty
> > To: "Bill Mahoney" <wmahoney at disk.com>
> > Cc: jim at almgt.com, s-car-list at audifans.com
> > Message-ID: <D197793C-5E5D-4BA9-85A0-E286B4BE64E1 at gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > Hey Flasherman and of course Mr. Balooneytunes
> >
> > It is not required to drop da tranny whilst investigating dis window
> > shennanighans. Just don't ask Balooney about dat one.
> >
> > Hap. wit dakine fun not from Evahboost, Maguire
> >
> >
> > On Nov 10, 2010, at 9:52 AM, Bill Mahoney wrote:
> >
> >> Jim,
> >>
> >> Oh yeah, now is a good time to investigate unless you don't open it during
> >> winter?
> >>
> >> It could just need cleaning an lubing. Taking off the panel for a looksee
> >> is not a big deal.
> >>
> >> I had one cable wear out / fray and ultimately jamb, but the motor was
> >> fine.
> >>
> >> This just one of them perpetual restoration items.
> >>
> >> Lube the door lock mechanism whilst in there.
> >>
> >> Have fun. Report back.
> >>
> >> Bill~up n down, as needed~M
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 10:58:08 -0600
> > From: bill mahoney <airbil at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [s-cars] That time O year again
> > To: s-car-list at audifans.com
> > Message-ID:
> > <AANLkTik4fwQiWCPCCgwdrqx4-u042yz=h6U+h6QU_2Yh at mail.gmail.com>
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> >
> > Now in video the Making of the '11 Pirelli Tire calendar.
> > Pirelli makes tires that fit on many Audi's.
> > How much more fun could a photo shoot be?
> >
> http://jalopnik.com/5459674/the-nsfw-not+so+tire+related-making-of-the-2010-pirelli-calendar
> > Bill~touting good things for '11~M
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 12:23:12 -0500
> > From: David Kase <dbkase at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [s-cars] That time O year again
> > To: bill mahoney <airbil at gmail.com>
> > Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
> > Message-ID:
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> >
> > You think they would put that one model in a set of new 20" P-zeros instead
> > of some worn out 15" all-seasons?!?!?!?!
> >
> > bOObies..
> >
> > thx bm,
> > dbk
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 11:58 AM, bill mahoney <airbil at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Now in video the Making of the '11 Pirelli Tire calendar.
> >> Pirelli makes tires that fit on many Audi's.
> >> How much more fun could a photo shoot be?
> >>
> >>
> http://jalopnik.com/5459674/the-nsfw-not+so+tire+related-making-of-the-2010-pirelli-calendar
> >> Bill~touting good things for '11~M
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 8
> > Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 10:23:13 -0700
> > From: "Jim Fleischer" <jim at almgt.com>
> > Subject: Re: [s-cars] Rear passenger window difficulty
> > To: "Bill Mahoney" <wmahoney at disk.com>, <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> > Message-ID: <D13E16AF1DE24E7DB651640A84437A58 at jim5fc968a6e6a>
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> >
> > Thanks Bill,
> >
> > Anything I should keep an eye out for regarding taking the panel
> off.....any
> > clips or little plastic bits that I need to be aware of so I don't break
> > them when pulling and tugging to get it off after I "think" I've
> got all the
> > screws out?
> >
> > What is the proper lube for this? Lithium grease?
> >
> > Thanks again,
> >
> > Jim
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Bill Mahoney
> > To: s-car-list at audifans.com
> > Cc: jim at almgt.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 9:52 AM
> > Subject: [s-cars] Rear passenger window difficulty
> >
> >
> > Jim,
> >
> > Oh yeah, now is a good time to investigate unless you don't
> open it during
> > winter?
> >
> > It could just need cleaning an lubing. Taking off the panel
> for a looksee
> > is not a big deal.
> >
> > I had one cable wear out / fray and ultimately jamb, but the motor was
> > fine.
> >
> > This just one of them perpetual restoration items.
> >
> > Lube the door lock mechanism whilst in there.
> >
> > Have fun. Report back.
> >
> > Bill~up n down, as needed~M
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 9
> > Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 12:46:54 -0600
> > From: "Bill Mahoney" <wmahoney at disk.com>
> > Subject: Re: [s-cars] Rear passenger window difficulty
> > To: "'Jim Fleischer'" <jim at almgt.com>, <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> > Message-ID: <064a01cb8107$a51f09a0$ef5d1ce0$@com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > Jim,
> >
> > Oh, so you haven't done this before? Lucky you then.
> >
> > Maybe someone has a link to the door panel removal handy? If not just
> > google 95 a6 or s6 door panel removal.
> >
> > I don't recall if there is a hidden screw behind the inside door handle but
> > there may be one? Other than that it's pretty straight forward.
> >
> > Unscrew door pin and all screws and unhook the latch inside from the handle
> > and pull the panel up to remove it. Search though cuz I am sure there are
> > pics somewhere.
> >
> > For lubricant, my all around preference is Kroil Penephite
> > http://www.kanolabs.com/
> >
> > Google around for best price. This is the only stuff I know that will work
> > on door hinges.
> >
> > Also good for the key locks and of course lock mechanisms. Uber micro
> > graphite and other elixirs do the trick.
> >
> > Removing the window regulator is not so daunting as it looks either.
> >
> > Pay attention to a shim in the front and mark its position for reassembly.
> >
> > It's possible the lubricant in the winder has simply dried out making slow,
> > difficult operation. For this would try spraying some WD40 inside and
> > rolling the window up and down a million times while grabbing the glass and
> > helping it along.
> >
> > Take the panel off and diagnose the issue so you can have the replacement
> > parts on hand before taking the whole regulator out though.
> >
> > Once you've finished all this you can move on to change your fuel
> pump, fuel
> > lines and heater coreJ
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > Bill~w/at least no tranny issues for 6 years nowJ~M
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Jim Fleischer [mailto:jim at almgt.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 11:23 AM
> > To: Bill Mahoney; s-car-list at audifans.com
> > Subject: Re: [s-cars] Rear passenger window difficulty
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks Bill,
> >
> >
> >
> > Anything I should keep an eye out for regarding taking the panel
> off.....any
> > clips or little plastic bits that I need to be aware of so I don't break
> > them when pulling and tugging to get it off after I "think" I've
> got all the
> > screws out?
> >
> >
> >
> > What is the proper lube for this? Lithium grease?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks again,
> >
> >
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > From: Bill Mahoney <mailto:wmahoney at disk.com>
> >
> > To: s-car-list at audifans.com
> >
> > Cc: jim at almgt.com
> >
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 9:52 AM
> >
> > Subject: [s-cars] Rear passenger window difficulty
> >
> >
> >
> > Jim,
> >
> > Oh yeah, now is a good time to investigate unless you don't open it during
> > winter?
> >
> > It could just need cleaning an lubing. Taking off the panel for a looksee
> > is not a big deal.
> >
> > I had one cable wear out / fray and ultimately jamb, but the
> motor was fine.
> >
> > This just one of them perpetual restoration items.
> >
> > Lube the door lock mechanism whilst in there.
> >
> > Have fun. Report back.
> >
> > Bill~up n down, as needed~M
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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