[s-cars] UrS as a Purpose Built Track Car?
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qshipq at aol.com
Tue Nov 16 10:46:46 PST 2010
In my 30 years of competitive motorsports, I've had the great opportunity to drive a wide variety of performance machines, on and off the track, Auto-x, Rallycross, ProRally, and circuit racing. Plenty of great rides experienced during that time, including flogging a spec miata. Fun yup, but I don't fit well in them. I never got the impression that Calvin was looking to get into 'racing' or competition, only to build a track car out of an already owned S4. Worth it? Absolutely! It needs a diet and brakes, then the rest is whatever you want to invest, up to major fundage. Parts are cheap, the transmissions bulletproof, the engine bulletproof, and the handling potential is really good. I enjoy 'listening' to those much wiser than I, try to convince me that what I've built, driven and experienced, just can't be real. IME, there is just no question that a Quattro on a budget, can be a fantastic and rewarding drive at the track. This includes the type 85, the type 44/D2/C4 chassis cars. And having driven both the B5 and the C4 in full track regalia, the C4 is easier to drive fast, is less twitchy at the limit, and can give the B5 a major run for the stopwatch.
I have a personal affinity for Italian supercars, never really got into the Pcars. I've driven many p-cars from a stock 951 to a tweeked 993, and they are fun and great rides, just no for me. And I know that armed with FIA specifications and documentations on the type 44 cars, it's pretty straight forward and cheap to build a very fast track car, without changing the front suspension *hardware*. The type 44 I built flies under the "CAM" racing banner (that's Cheap *ss Motorsports), and has lived to that ascription quite well over the years. And will give nothing to any of the front-pack runners at any track event, backing up over 10 years.
Me, I'd rather see more keyboard opinionators be AT the track, than talk about what 'should' go there. And to Calvin, you absolutely can and should build the S4 to a track rat, you will have a blast. And you won't need to spend a fortune to make it quick. They are simple to fix, easy to modify, and a unique and fast ride... Or, you can sell it for peanuts, learn how to work on a miata, and ask yourself why you just didn't take the quattro advantage to the next logical step.
Carry on, it's a quattro
Scott J
-----Original Message-----
From: Taka Mizutani <t44tqtro at gmail.com>
To: s-car-list at audifans.com
Sent: Tue, Nov 16, 2010 11:55 am
Subject: Re: [s-cars] UrS as a Purpose Built Track Car?
This was basically my point without saying it- a car like a Miata is much,
much cheaper to run at the track and if you ball it up, it doesn't cost that
much to get another one and start over again. A type 44 is going to require
a good amount of work to make it into a track car, then if you ball it up,
you have to do that much more work when you start over again.
For the most part, everyone that does a lot of track time gravitates toward
the same cars for the same reasons- easy parts availability, low replacement
cost, huge aftermarket, good speed-to-cost ratio, etc. That's why everyone
is running a Miata, E30 BMW, GT3, etc.
If I start going to the track regularly, the BMW will probably get sold and
I'll have to get another Miata or I'll look for a Spec E30/944.
Taka
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