[s-cars] FW: POS testing procedure

JC jc at j2c3.com
Thu Sep 2 18:37:06 PDT 2010


Meant to CC this to the list...

>
> Wylie - the fact that you're losing another cylinder makes me
> think POS vs coils.  if it's a POS I'd say grab a spare "V6
> brownie POS" for cheap from some VW or Audi in the local
> junkyard and try swapping on either side to see if your
> problem goes away. POS swapping is the one thing that IS
> super easy for troubleshooting vs figuring out coil problems..
>
> if you were local I'd toss you one of my spares for
> troubleshooting in a sec and in fact if I wasn't traveling
> internationally I'd just mail you down a spare
> tomorrow(you're Carolinas, right? if I don't have you mixed
> up with somebody else?) but I won't be home for another 3
> weeks or so. then again you're in the south - you must have
> junkyards every 5 miles, right? ;^)   seriously I might be
> able to mobilize the wife to find mine and send down
> actually, let me know if you'd like me to ask....
>
> The biggest benefit to a switch in my mind is the
> servicability. I fully understand the "OEM lasts 90k miles so
> just man up and pay the price" argument that a lot of guys
> have and I don't even really care about the cost of the OEM
> as much as when/if something starts to go wrong the
> troubleshooting sucks vs. a 1.8T or LS2 easy of swapping.  If
> you get a miss at idle like your situation it's one thing and
> actually almost "EASY" but if like I had a few months ago you
> just get misses at high throttle/boost it's really hard to
> confirm and the injector unplug test is much less decisive
> (can you really tell if a poor motor running at WOT on 4 cyls
> is stumbling any worse or better?)  And part of it (like in
> my case) a lot of times the coils will just miss at very high
> engine compartment temps so sitting in the driveway all will
> be well then out on the road with a suit on going someplace
> it'll act up just when you can't do anything about it..
>
> the other "cheap" option is as mentioned the LS2 kit, say
> from marc swanson. I tried his kit and loved it at first but
> it still dropped out at the very highest levels of
> throttle/boost (I'm on a very late generation TAP chip,
> pushes 1.6bar+ on the gauge - nothing outrageous but nice and
> solid).  after us putting in a lot of time to try options and
> troubleshoot, he nicely refunded me and had to admit some
> ECU's just don't seem to be compatible with the LS2 coils.
> I'm betting it's a max current thing, maybe my ECU has weak
> output transistors or something, but anyway a lot of people
> have had excellent luck with his kit and when it ran on my
> car it ran great - seemed like a bit more power even right up
> to 7/8 throttle... but then past that I'd get cut-outs, and
> who wants an S-car you cant drive at WOT!?!?  like the 1.8T
> the other benefit is the LS2 coils are available at any
> autoparts joint on the side of the road vs. the stock Beru
> units which tough to find outside the dealer and you have to
> pay for in solid gold bars.
>
> That said, AutohausAZ has them at $130 ea. which I'd noticed
> some time ago but had slipped my mind.
> https://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=5502o5mmcf0
> qzd205itorg55&makeid=800002 at Audi&modelid=1009370 at S6%20TURBO%20
> &year=1995&cid=25 at Ignition%20Parts&gid=7060 at Ignition%20Coil
>
> HTH...
>
> JC
>
> >


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