[s-cars] Passats

Fri Sep 10 05:42:20 PDT 2010

It has to be a 2004.5- that's the only year you could get a 1.8T 4Motion
Passat.

Late Saabaru? It's gone?

Taka

On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 12:11 AM, LL - NY <larrycleung at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ya know, maybe my friend's car is a 2004.5, its a few years back already,
> and can't recall the relative time diff btw it and my (late) 2005 Saabaru.
> Lately everything has been flying by so fast so the roughly year diff could
> have felt like 2.  As for his Passat, it has been a solid ride for him, his
> only real complaint is the lack of adjustability of the manual driver's
> seat vs. the power ones in the GLX and his previous C4 100CSQA. He says he
> ends up between clicks in the fore-aft position so he's never perfectly
> comfortable.
>
> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Erik Addy <erikaddy at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > I have a 2004.5 Passat 1.8T 4-Motion wagon.  I don't believe there was
> such
> > an
> > animal (1.8T and 4-Mo) in 2003, just 2004.5-2005.
> >
> >
> > I really like it.  Yes, it is slow (not chipped, yet), but it sure feels
> > lighter
> > and more nimble that the Ur-S.  Less nose heavy, much more sophisticated
> > front
> > suspention.  The car is essentially a streched B5 A4, so pretty much
> > anything
> > you can do to one of those, you can do to the Passat.
> >
> > Erik
> >
> > Message: 8
> > Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 08:30:32 -0400
> > From: LL - NY <larrycleung at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [s-cars] VW Passat 2.8 Experience
> > To: AaronT <atay101 at gmail.com>
> > Cc: S-Car-List <s-car-list at audifans.com>
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> >
> > I can chime in on my experience with my Mom's 2001.5 GLX 4mo Wagon (same
> > car, for the most part as an '03 I think some features change,
> > otherwise it's another post facelift (still B5) car. 2.8 V6 30V).
> >
> > Beware, the car is of very low miles (Mom doesn't travel much, just local
> > driving) and it's been through a number of hits (one fairly severe) as
> Mom
> > also doesn't drive real well.
> >
> > Overall, competent vehicle, pleasant enough of a drive. For spirited
> > driving
> > if you're used to UrS thrust, well, it doesn't have it.  It has perfectly
> > adequate pull, but the very act of spirited driving highlights it's one
> > biggest flaw, Tiptronic.  In regular driving, it's fine, virtually
> > transparent. In spirited driving, it's slow to kickdown (even with manual
> > selection) fast to shift up, will not hold at redline and it's got a low
> > rev
> > stall speed (for the weak low down torque, this works against getting a
> > good
> > launch, say, like trying to get into heavy fast traffic from a side
> > street).
> > Due to the pedal interlock, you can't LFB.
> >
> > Problems (car has less than 30K miles), running wise, essentially none.
> > Only
> > real problem is the stereo head unit, which has now the standard VAG
> > issues,
> > (display winks out, first it was the backlight, now when the actual
> display
> > goes out) the only control that works is the power switch on the head
> unit
> > and the steering wheel controls. All other head unit controls go AWOL
> when
> > the display is out. You can sometimes restore the display (thus control)
> by
> > pressing on the face of the unit, but this obviously is not going to last
> > forever. The unit is a Typhoon, but doesn't have the CD changer out back.
> >
> > Car has held up fairly well considering that Mom doesn't really care
> about
> > cars at all, and it's condition at any time kind of shows it. A good
> > cleaning would bring everything back (i.e. the materials, inside and out
> > hold up well except the exterior brightwork, which is getting the VAG
> > "milky" patina) except for the dents that have nothing to do with the
> car.
> > As a DD, it's nicer (I think) and a much better drive than say a similar
> > vintage Camry.  Still, it doesn't have quite the same verve as the UrS
> when
> > the roads get interesting. I guess the best word I can think of for it
> was
> > the first one I used...competent. And perhaps more reliable than a C4
> car.
> > It IS much more dependent on diagnostics and system changes on VAG-COM.
> >
> > My local friend has a 2003 1.8T 5sp 4mo Wagon (rare!) and the only real
> > issues he has had (car has well over 100K miles on it now) has been the
> > door
> > locks, and brakes (although he has a dirt driveway. Mom's car is
> garaged).
> > BOTH cars suffer from the most irritating remote key controls on the
> > planet.
> > It's like Forrest Gump's box of choclates. You press a button and ya
> never
> > know if it's gonna work. If it were me, and nothing of value was in the
> > car,
> > I'd leave the damn thing unlocked...oh, you can't.  The stupid hatch will
> > lock anyway. It's like the car's remote and locking functions were
> designed
> > by and for...Americans.
> >
> > HTH,
> > On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 12:16 AM, AaronT <atay101 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Sorry folks but another non scar question -
> > > Anybody have any direct experience with a 2003 VW passat 4Mo wagon
> > (2.8v6)?
> > > Still looking for a reasonable replacement for my 95S6Avant....
> > > Which by the way has been rather trouble free lately - famous last
> words.
> > > Thanks
> > > Aaron
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