[s-cars] Passats

LL - NY larrycleung at gmail.com
Fri Sep 10 07:11:23 PDT 2010


Damn, I need to not get home from work so late to type things like that.  I
meant purchased late in the year Saabaru.  It's still around. I need sleep.

On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Taka Mizutani <t44tqtro at gmail.com> wrote:

> It has to be a 2004.5- that's the only year you could get a 1.8T 4Motion
> Passat.
>
> Late Saabaru? It's gone?
>
> Taka
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 12:11 AM, LL - NY <larrycleung at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ya know, maybe my friend's car is a 2004.5, its a few years back already,
>> and can't recall the relative time diff btw it and my (late) 2005 Saabaru.
>> Lately everything has been flying by so fast so the roughly year diff
>> could
>> have felt like 2.  As for his Passat, it has been a solid ride for him,
>> his
>> only real complaint is the lack of adjustability of the manual driver's
>> seat vs. the power ones in the GLX and his previous C4 100CSQA. He says he
>> ends up between clicks in the fore-aft position so he's never perfectly
>> comfortable.
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Erik Addy <erikaddy at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>  > I have a 2004.5 Passat 1.8T 4-Motion wagon.  I don't believe there was
>> such
>> > an
>> > animal (1.8T and 4-Mo) in 2003, just 2004.5-2005.
>> >
>> >
>> > I really like it.  Yes, it is slow (not chipped, yet), but it sure feels
>> > lighter
>> > and more nimble that the Ur-S.  Less nose heavy, much more sophisticated
>> > front
>> > suspention.  The car is essentially a streched B5 A4, so pretty much
>> > anything
>> > you can do to one of those, you can do to the Passat.
>> >
>> > Erik
>> >
>> > Message: 8
>> > Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 08:30:32 -0400
>> > From: LL - NY <larrycleung at gmail.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [s-cars] VW Passat 2.8 Experience
>> > To: AaronT <atay101 at gmail.com>
>> > Cc: S-Car-List <s-car-list at audifans.com>
>> > Message-ID:
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>> > I can chime in on my experience with my Mom's 2001.5 GLX 4mo Wagon (same
>> > car, for the most part as an '03 I think some features change,
>> > otherwise it's another post facelift (still B5) car. 2.8 V6 30V).
>> >
>> > Beware, the car is of very low miles (Mom doesn't travel much, just
>> local
>> > driving) and it's been through a number of hits (one fairly severe) as
>> Mom
>> > also doesn't drive real well.
>> >
>> > Overall, competent vehicle, pleasant enough of a drive. For spirited
>> > driving
>> > if you're used to UrS thrust, well, it doesn't have it.  It has
>> perfectly
>> > adequate pull, but the very act of spirited driving highlights it's one
>> > biggest flaw, Tiptronic.  In regular driving, it's fine, virtually
>> > transparent. In spirited driving, it's slow to kickdown (even with
>> manual
>> > selection) fast to shift up, will not hold at redline and it's got a low
>> > rev
>> > stall speed (for the weak low down torque, this works against getting a
>> > good
>> > launch, say, like trying to get into heavy fast traffic from a side
>> > street).
>> > Due to the pedal interlock, you can't LFB.
>> >
>> > Problems (car has less than 30K miles), running wise, essentially none.
>> > Only
>> > real problem is the stereo head unit, which has now the standard VAG
>> > issues,
>> > (display winks out, first it was the backlight, now when the actual
>> display
>> > goes out) the only control that works is the power switch on the head
>> unit
>> > and the steering wheel controls. All other head unit controls go AWOL
>> when
>> > the display is out. You can sometimes restore the display (thus control)
>> by
>> > pressing on the face of the unit, but this obviously is not going to
>> last
>> > forever. The unit is a Typhoon, but doesn't have the CD changer out
>> back.
>> >
>> > Car has held up fairly well considering that Mom doesn't really care
>> about
>> > cars at all, and it's condition at any time kind of shows it. A good
>> > cleaning would bring everything back (i.e. the materials, inside and out
>> > hold up well except the exterior brightwork, which is getting the VAG
>> > "milky" patina) except for the dents that have nothing to do with the
>> car.
>> > As a DD, it's nicer (I think) and a much better drive than say a similar
>> > vintage Camry.  Still, it doesn't have quite the same verve as the UrS
>> when
>> > the roads get interesting. I guess the best word I can think of for it
>> was
>> > the first one I used...competent. And perhaps more reliable than a C4
>> car.
>> > It IS much more dependent on diagnostics and system changes on VAG-COM.
>> >
>> > My local friend has a 2003 1.8T 5sp 4mo Wagon (rare!) and the only real
>> > issues he has had (car has well over 100K miles on it now) has been the
>> > door
>> > locks, and brakes (although he has a dirt driveway. Mom's car is
>> garaged).
>> > BOTH cars suffer from the most irritating remote key controls on the
>> > planet.
>> > It's like Forrest Gump's box of choclates. You press a button and ya
>> never
>> > know if it's gonna work. If it were me, and nothing of value was in the
>> > car,
>> > I'd leave the damn thing unlocked...oh, you can't.  The stupid hatch
>> will
>> > lock anyway. It's like the car's remote and locking functions were
>> designed
>> > by and for...Americans.
>> >
>> > HTH,
>> > On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 12:16 AM, AaronT <atay101 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Sorry folks but another non scar question -
>> > > Anybody have any direct experience with a 2003 VW passat 4Mo wagon
>> > (2.8v6)?
>> > > Still looking for a reasonable replacement for my 95S6Avant....
>> > > Which by the way has been rather trouble free lately - famous last
>> words.
>> > > Thanks
>> > > Aaron
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