[s-cars] Replacement car for urs4

Larry larrycleung at gmail.com
Mon Jul 18 09:28:03 PDT 2011


Subaru now only offers the Forrester XT with the 4EAT auto. It's as if the world believes 'Muricans don't want fun behind the wheel. It's literally BMW or nothing.

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On Jul 18, 2011, at 12:12 PM, Robert Myers <bob at chips-ur-s.com> wrote:

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> Unless things have changed in the last couple of years you can (or could, anyway) get a Forester 2.5XT w/ a manual tranny.  My wife drives an '07 model.  Pretty hot little wagon.  Not up to my RS2ed urS6 but still pretty decent performance.  Handles fairly well also.
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> At 10:10 AM 7/18/2011, Taka Mizutani wrote:
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>> Wayne-
>> The only mid sized Subaru with a manual is a Legacy GT.
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>> If you're okay with the '05-09 body style, I'd suggest looking for a Spec B
>> if you can find one- it has the STi 6-speed and tuned suspension. It's a
>> fair bit smaller than your S4- you'd have to get a '10+ Legacy GT to have a
>> larger car.
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>> The E60 5 series would fit the bill, with AWD and a manual. I'd stay away
>> from the 535s due to the HPFP issues, though.
>> 
>> The '09+ A4 is about the same size as a C5 A6, so if you're okay with that
>> size of car, I'd take a good look at the current A4 or even the S4. You
>> can't get an A6 or A8 with a manual. I don't know what you're budget is,
>> that would help knowing what you're comfortable spending so we don't
>> recommend cars way out of your budget.
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>> Taka
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>> On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Wayne Dohnal <wd43 at hevanet.com> wrote:
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>> > I must not be the only one thinking it's getting less and less practical to
>> > keep the S4 going.  It has 216,000 miles on the clock, and needs a new
>> > steering rack, new wheels, and with 100k miles the clutch probably won't
>> > last a whole lot longer.  The original fuel pump must be close to the end. I
>> > won't do the rack or clutch myself, so I'm looking at probably $4k to $5k
>> > over the next year or two that could be spent on a replacement car instead.
>> > I'm noticing that a lot of things like water hoses and vacuum hoses have
>> > turned hard and brittle.   I'm afraid that the age-related failures are
>> > going to be coming more and more often.
>> >
>> > I "love" the S4 for its comfort, convenience, and solid feeling.  And I
>> > can't figure out what would make for a good replacement.  I do a lot of
>> > winter and mountain driving.  A good AWD system is mandatory, I don't want
>> > one of the brain-dead automatics that's always doing the wrong thing, and
>> > I'm afraid of the maintenance exposure with a German automatic anyway.  I'd
>> > maybe take a CVT or DSG if I had to.  The A4 is too small.  An A6 or A8
>> > would be great, but I don't want the maintenance exposure of the twin turbo,
>> > and all the others have the slush boxes.   I think I just eliminated all of
>> > the USA Audis.  The 2012 Passat looks good, but it doesn't offer AWD. There
>> > are some BMWs with AWD.  I don't know if the AWD system is any good, and I
>> > don't have an unlimited budget either.  After weeding out everything I don't
>> > like, I think all that's left is Subaru.  Is there another good alternative
>> > that I'm not seeing?
>> >
>> > Wayne
>> > 1994 S4
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