[s-cars] 2.0 A3 conversion to quattro?

[tom at tomwintermedia.com]

Thanks, John.

Your insights into the A3 are good. I believe that there is an S3 quattro
available in Europe, so add that your rant about the fckwits at Audi not
giving us Yankees what we'd really like to have. LOL!

I'm not sure if the FWD would turn me off. It's a return to my first Audi, a
5000 (C2 platform) that I had years ago. Loved that car.

By the way, my original post had a typo, I'm looking for manual tranny S4
avants in the B5 platform (not C4). But you guys are smart and probably
figured that out.

While I'm getting feedback, I'm seeing a few nice B7 S4 avants out there as
well. Anyone want to chime in on those. I live at altitude and like the
ability to easily tune a turbocharged car, but maybe should also be
considering the B7 platform?

Thanks, all!

Tom '95 S6 Avant

On 12/30/12 1:44 PM, "John Cunningham" <jc at j2c3.com> wrote:

> Tom -
> 
> Conversion would be an expensive huge project that made no financial sense. In
> late 2009 Audi finally relented on at least one of their numerous idiotic
> American marketing concepts and started sending 2.0T quattros so you'd really
> just want to get a later one w factory AWD. Too had they cling to their
> stoopid idea that TDIs shouldn't be Quattro because they are such microbrained
> fckwits they can only imagine selling diesel to Americans on basis of being
> "gas mileage economy" concept. That'd be the one to get although 2.0T is a
> nice little motor too. Anyway I'd far rather tackle manual converting a DSG
> than Quattro converting a FWD but in reality wouldn't do that either as the
> DSG is great. 
> 
> I have the wife in a FWD 2.0T A3 DSG and its great. Little small in drivers
> compartment. Small car in general compared to ye olde C4 wagon. Some little
> fussy things you learn about 2.0Ts (PCV system flaws, cam followers) but
> that's same for any interesting motor. Keep in mind A3 and sibling R32 are
> "Haldex Quattros" which are not your old Quattro system... More FWD biased
> etc.  The DSG is no crappy Tiptronic - very very nice dual clutch setup and
> apparently they've got all the reliability bugs worked out that were in the
> early models. It's a lot of fun actually. We wanted a 6MT but then test drove
> the DSG reluctantly and ended up loving it.
> 
> I have to say its a great fun little car but nothing like the C4... Not really
> a like for like replacement. I thought for 2 secs about getting one for myself
> but its just a bit small inside for a full timer for me and I'd then
> inevitably dump lotsa bucks into suspension and brakes and tunes and turbos
> etc and probably end up wishing I'd invested in a more "substantial" car in
> the first place.  A super built 2.0T Quattro A3 would be a blast though,
> especially if it included aftermarket Haldex tunes and mods which are now
> available.
> 
> JC 
> 
> Sent from iPad
> 
> On Dec 30, 2012, at 15:20, "tom at tomwintermedia.com" <tom at tomwintermedia.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Looking at replacing my 200k mile MTM stage 1 s6 avant (1995), and weighing
>> my options.
>> 
>> Anyone on the forums taken a FWD manual tranny A3 sportback and converted it
>> to quattro? I wouldn't be doing the work myself, and have a shop I trust for
>> this kind of thing. I'll talk to them, obviously, but wondering if anyone
>> has been there done that yet. I'm seeing some decent prices on low mileage
>> A3 hence my curiosity.
>> 
>> Also, if anyone has a 100k +/- C4 S4 manual transmission avant with or
>> without tasteful mods that they are thinking of selling, we should talk.
>> 
>> It will be hard to see the s6 go, but getting pressure from the significant
>> other because she happened to be in the car when my original fuel pump
>> crapped out and then was in it again when the replacement proved faulty, so
>> those two incidents have become her cause du jour to push for a replacement
>> (both were about 1 hour from home, not good).
>> 
>> Also, any experience with the newer 2.0 quattro avants to share would be
>> appreciated. Particularly when it comes to an MTM or other chip as well as
>> other tweaks to push that car to reach a higher level of performance.
>> 
>> If and when I find the right replacement, I'll let you guys have first crack
>> at my avant, don't worry about that ;-)
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Tom '95 S6 Avant
>> 
>> 
>> 
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