[s-cars] Volvo V70 R Wagon (NAC)

[Scott Justusson]

Funny read...   I do car searches daily for a living Taka, there are many 535xi avants to be had in a 6speed manual (with clutch), and they are still valid models in the used BMW dealer searches.  Phenom machine.  v70? I have a buddy at a volvo service shop that sells at least 1 a month.  After 21 years with 'quattro', I'm not a fan of Haldex at all, esp in the volvos, but even in the TT.  It's part time awd best, the bmw xi series are full time awd.  Replace a haldex angle gear and or controller (BTDT), the volvo just doesn't seem worth the program, nor is it a known 'once and done' problem.  So much so, I'd consider a non turbo version of the bmw I6 wagons first.  

Personally, I believe there is a reason the v70 pricing is where it is.  Great brakes from the factory though, and I really did like the glove leather option in one I drove recently.

Cheers

Scott J


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Taka Mizutani <t44tqtro at gmail.com>
To: Scott Justusson <qshipq at aol.com>
Cc: s-car-list <s-car-list at audifans.com>; gregsj2 <gregsj2 at gmail.com>
Sent: Sun, Jan 22, 2012 12:26 pm
Subject: Re: [s-cars] Volvo V70 R Wagon (NAC)


I found 9 nationwide, only 3 that you can confirm visually that they are truly 3-pedal manual transmissions. Without that, you have no idea whether or not the car is a 6-speed steptronic or a real manual. Of course, they will pop up from time to time because they're still coming off lease and are available if you do a nationwide Manheim search. You'll almost never see a V70R on Manheim any more.

No doubt that the 535xi Touring is a much better driving car. Also, there is a huge difference in price- you're talking about comparing a car that is in the $10-17k range versus a car that is $35-50k. For three times the money, I surely hope that it's a better car.

For $50k I'd be looking at a late W211 E63 wagon, CTS-V wagon or a Cayenne Turbo.

I'm not saying you're wrong, just that there is a significant difference in power potential between the N54 and N55.

Taka



On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Scott Justusson <qshipq at aol.com> wrote:

 Sound interesting, I spoke to the twin turbo (used by definition) version because it appeared greg was looking 'used' v70...  30 seconds into cars.com just now, I found 4 535xi avant 6speeds.  I have brokered two of these in the last two years, there were over 15 to choose from when I brokered one last fall.  Don't do or read anything until you drive one.  Back to back to the v70, it's a no brainer.  IMO

Cheers

Scott J


-----Original Message-----
From: Taka Mizutani <t44tqtro at gmail.com>
To: s-car-list <s-car-list at audifans.com>
Cc: gregsj2 <gregsj2 at gmail.com>
Sent: Sun, Jan 22, 2012 11:33 am
Subject: Re: [s-cars] Volvo V70 R Wagon (NAC)


You have to get the N54 twin turbo engine to get over 400hp, so that limits
you to '07-09. Manual transmission 535xi Tourings are super-rare, BTW- I've
seen maybe 5 for sale in the last 1.5 yrs., nationally.

N55 single turbo engines will not get to 400hp without a turbo swap.

HPFP is a known issue, BMW warrants it to 100k but still has problems with
it.

Lots more electrical issues with the E61- active roll bars go bad, iDrive
issues, etc. There are a million freaking electronic modules in those cars.


On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Scott Justusson <qshipq at aol.com> wrote:

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>  Nice motor, good brakes.  Haldex angle gear a known problem, as is the
> haldex controller.  S car upgrade wagon, going to the 'other' side?  BMW
> 535XI Avant 6speed.  Bone stock it's fast, with the Dinan chip and oil
> cooler upgrade, it will put down over 400hp.  BTDroveT.
>
> Cheers
>
> Scott J
>
>
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