[s-cars] S-CAR-List Digest, Vol 99, Issue 32

[Greg Johnson]

First thanks to all for the great input!

Actually, the contemplation is/was being driven by a semi-locally
advertised 2005 V70R Wagon that had less than 25K miles! The listing was
poor (did not say if it's an auto or stick) and assuming NADA provides
semi-valid pricing info, it was overpriced by about $5k.  It's moot because
when I called about a half hour ago to find out if it was a stick or auto,
I learned that it was an auto and it SOLD late last night.

Were I to take the V70R route, I'd prefer a stick, but my bride refuses to
drive one.  Were I to do an auto, I'd prefer the six-speed, so I guess that
means 2006 or 2007.  The other part of the interest is I owned a V-Wagon
years ago and loved it and V-tuner, IPD (to whom I've "donated" in the
past), is but a few hours a way.

I've always liked the BMW 535ix twin turbo and consider it superior to the
V70R, but as discussed, they are a bit pricey (if all goes well, the last
child's college tuition needs paying for two more semesters).   With my
trade, were the V-dealer reasonable, the low mileage V70R might have been
snagged for about $7K, which could have been a great deal.  Unfortunately,
someone else got it...

There's a 2006 auto V70R a few hours away with less than 70K, but it's an
auto.  I'm also concerned about expensive parts and pieces that likely need
fixing, or will need fixing.  We'll see.

Thanks again for all the help.

Greg J

From: Scott Justusson <qshipq at aol.com> wrote:
>
>  Bad coffee this morning Taka?  I saw nothing on price *yet* from Greg,
> let's let him chime in.  Modules on a car?  Audi is no exception, just late
> to the game. BMW and Mercedes have been there a while, VW/Audi is there on
> the latest offerings, and have always been on the high end offerings.
>  Known issues creating a price problem in the used market?  I'm sorry, I
> had to double check that this is an Audi forum!  ;).  IME, a comprehensive
> car search is different than a google-type search.  IME doing this for many
> years, sometimes color can be a problem, but I don't find 'color' to be a
> primary decision-maker for most buyers either.
>
> Manual transmissions (again Greg hasn't indicated that) aren't at all hard
> to find, and they tend to sit longer on the vine too.  So 'rare' is
> relative to the market.  Many dealers have no idea what they have, but
> asking if it has 3 pedals or two, usually takes the guess work out of the
> equation, btdt.  Back to the original poster, I highly recommend checking
> out the BMW x drive wagons (manual or auto).  The v70 is well documented in
> terms of known issues with a basic google search.
>
> Cheers and my .02
>
> SJ
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Taka Mizutani <t44tqtro at gmail.com>
> To: Scott Justusson <qshipq at aol.com>
> Cc: s-car-list <s-car-list at audifans.com>; gregsj2 <gregsj2 at gmail.com>
> Sent: Sun, Jan 22, 2012 1:17 pm
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Volvo V70 R Wagon (NAC)
>
>
> Let me make this clear- I'm not defending the V70R by any means, I've
> written quite a bit about the Haldex AWD on the list. You're also not
> comparing apples to apples, that's the point. You're not finding a 530xi
> manual for the same price, either.
>
> Manual transmission 5 series are rare- making it an AWD wagon makes it
> that much more rare. I'm glad I amuse you. Of course there is a reason why
> V70 pricing is what it is- it started at a lower price point, it has a lot
> less appeal to the general public than a comparably priced SUV and they do
> have issues. Same reason why Saab is bankrupt and gone.
>
> What's really funny is that a guy asks about a $10-17k car on the list and
> you tell him that it's not a good choice and he should really be looking at
> a $35k car instead. That makes a lot of sense.
>
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> On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Scott Justusson <qshipq at aol.com> wrote:
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> Funny read...   I do car searches daily for a living Taka, there are many
> 535xi avants to be had in a 6speed manual (with clutch), and they are still
> valid models in the used BMW dealer searches.  Phenom machine.  v70? I have
> a buddy at a volvo service shop that sells at least 1 a month.  After 21
> years with 'quattro', I'm not a fan of Haldex at all, esp in the volvos,
> but even in the TT.  It's part time awd best, the bmw xi series are full
> time awd.  Replace a haldex angle gear and or controller (BTDT), the volvo
> just doesn't seem worth the program, nor is it a known 'once and done'
> problem.  So much so, I'd consider a non turbo version of the bmw I6 wagons
> first.
>
> Personally, I believe there is a reason the v70 pricing is where it is.
>  Great brakes from the factory though, and I really did like the glove
> leather option in one I drove recently.
>
> Cheers
>
> Scott J
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