[s-cars] S-CAR-List Digest, Vol 99, Issue 32

Sun Jan 22 20:02:18 PST 2012

After working on them at the shop I am less dismayed at my past-future want
for one. Forget which year, for particular features, was my favorite, but
think it was 05.

If you know what to look out for and balance your risk reward ratio, they
can be worth it, but no guarantees..

Although, the driveshaft C/V's are among the fiercest i've experienced at
remaining in the flange cup front and rear.. SonsOB'tchs they are..

Still looking for that dead sexy brunette rolling around in a teal V70R
wagon... C'mon, let me dream!

If you're into them and that close to a trusted shop it's all the more
compelling.

On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Greg Johnson <gregsj2 at gmail.com> wrote:

> First thanks to all for the great input!
>
> Actually, the contemplation is/was being driven by a semi-locally
> advertised 2005 V70R Wagon that had less than 25K miles! The listing was
> poor (did not say if it's an auto or stick) and assuming NADA provides
> semi-valid pricing info, it was overpriced by about $5k.  It's moot because
> when I called about a half hour ago to find out if it was a stick or auto,
> I learned that it was an auto and it SOLD late last night.
>
> Were I to take the V70R route, I'd prefer a stick, but my bride refuses to
> drive one.  Were I to do an auto, I'd prefer the six-speed, so I guess that
> means 2006 or 2007.  The other part of the interest is I owned a V-Wagon
> years ago and loved it and V-tuner, IPD (to whom I've "donated" in the
> past), is but a few hours a way.
>
> I've always liked the BMW 535ix twin turbo and consider it superior to the
> V70R, but as discussed, they are a bit pricey (if all goes well, the last
> child's college tuition needs paying for two more semesters).   With my
> trade, were the V-dealer reasonable, the low mileage V70R might have been
> snagged for about $7K, which could have been a great deal.  Unfortunately,
> someone else got it...
>
> There's a 2006 auto V70R a few hours away with less than 70K, but it's an
> auto.  I'm also concerned about expensive parts and pieces that likely need
> fixing, or will need fixing.  We'll see.
>
> Thanks again for all the help.
>
> Greg J
>
> From: Scott Justusson <qshipq at aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >  Bad coffee this morning Taka?  I saw nothing on price *yet* from Greg,
> > let's let him chime in.  Modules on a car?  Audi is no exception, just
> late
> > to the game. BMW and Mercedes have been there a while, VW/Audi is there
> on
> > the latest offerings, and have always been on the high end offerings.
> >  Known issues creating a price problem in the used market?  I'm sorry, I
> > had to double check that this is an Audi forum!  ;).  IME, a
> comprehensive
> > car search is different than a google-type search.  IME doing this for
> many
> > years, sometimes color can be a problem, but I don't find 'color' to be a
> > primary decision-maker for most buyers either.
> >
> > Manual transmissions (again Greg hasn't indicated that) aren't at all
> hard
> > to find, and they tend to sit longer on the vine too.  So 'rare' is
> > relative to the market.  Many dealers have no idea what they have, but
> > asking if it has 3 pedals or two, usually takes the guess work out of the
> > equation, btdt.  Back to the original poster, I highly recommend checking
> > out the BMW x drive wagons (manual or auto).  The v70 is well documented
> in
> > terms of known issues with a basic google search.
> >
> > Cheers and my .02
> >
> > SJ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Taka Mizutani <t44tqtro at gmail.com>
> > To: Scott Justusson <qshipq at aol.com>
> > Cc: s-car-list <s-car-list at audifans.com>; gregsj2 <gregsj2 at gmail.com>
> > Sent: Sun, Jan 22, 2012 1:17 pm
> > Subject: Re: [s-cars] Volvo V70 R Wagon (NAC)
> >
> >
> > Let me make this clear- I'm not defending the V70R by any means, I've
> > written quite a bit about the Haldex AWD on the list. You're also not
> > comparing apples to apples, that's the point. You're not finding a 530xi
> > manual for the same price, either.
> >
> > Manual transmission 5 series are rare- making it an AWD wagon makes it
> > that much more rare. I'm glad I amuse you. Of course there is a reason
> why
> > V70 pricing is what it is- it started at a lower price point, it has a
> lot
> > less appeal to the general public than a comparably priced SUV and they
> do
> > have issues. Same reason why Saab is bankrupt and gone.
> >
> > What's really funny is that a guy asks about a $10-17k car on the list
> and
> > you tell him that it's not a good choice and he should really be looking
> at
> > a $35k car instead. That makes a lot of sense.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Scott Justusson <qshipq at aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Funny read...   I do car searches daily for a living Taka, there are many
> > 535xi avants to be had in a 6speed manual (with clutch), and they are
> still
> > valid models in the used BMW dealer searches.  Phenom machine.  v70? I
> have
> > a buddy at a volvo service shop that sells at least 1 a month.  After 21
> > years with 'quattro', I'm not a fan of Haldex at all, esp in the volvos,
> > but even in the TT.  It's part time awd best, the bmw xi series are full
> > time awd.  Replace a haldex angle gear and or controller (BTDT), the
> volvo
> > just doesn't seem worth the program, nor is it a known 'once and done'
> > problem.  So much so, I'd consider a non turbo version of the bmw I6
> wagons
> > first.
> >
> > Personally, I believe there is a reason the v70 pricing is where it is.
> >  Great brakes from the factory though, and I really did like the glove
> > leather option in one I drove recently.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Scott J
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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