[s-cars] Volvo V70 R Wagon (NAC)

Mon Jan 23 17:16:07 PST 2012

As always Scott, you always end up making all sorts of assumptions and
personal attacks. If you want to go ahead and recommend a car that is a
known POS, be my guest.

As for the personal attacks, it's against list rules. You've repeatedly
shown yourself to be a pompous, self righteous douchebag.
 On Jan 23, 2012 6:22 PM, "Scott Justusson" <qshipq at aol.com> wrote:

> A keyboard driver problem, I've seen it for years....  Amusing reads of
> internet summaries at best Taka. I enjoy driving and evaluating vehicles
> for folks that 'usually' come to me *after* they have done their research,
> and picked the machine already.  That said, instead of regurgitating known
> issues on the 'early' Touareg v10tdi, take the opportunity to drive one
> (I'm partial to the '07 myself).  Like the X5 before it that set the
> standard for on-road manners, that v10tdi is an impressive beast of the
> first order.  Anyone that regurgitates it's reviews, has just plain and
> simple, without question:  never driven one.  Compare it to *any* other
> machine, and it's tough to not respect it, whatever you read of it's flaws.
>
> I've urged many on this very forum, sir JNR included, to drive the v10tdi
> and type out the post-drive impression.  The swell of torque that thing
> builds, defies logic, physics and ego.  Kick those game-boy pedals out from
> under your desk Taka, give it a go!  ;)
>
> Gotta pack for Steamboat, seems torsen boy is actually driving a torsen
> there this year <:"P
>
>
>  SJ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Taka Mizutani <t44tqtro at gmail.com>
> To: s-car-list <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> Sent: Mon, Jan 23, 2012 12:33 pm
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Volvo V70 R Wagon (NAC)
>
>
> Now you're really being funny- an allroad? That's a huge POS- failing air
> suspension, failing turbos, super high labor cost to service.
>
> Then you talk about a V10 Touareg- an even bigger POS that has an even
> worse problem with failing air suspension, lots of electrical issues.
>
> You conveniently fail to address BMW's continual problem with HPFPs that
> still hasn't been solved and the fact that the open deck block will fail
> with regularity if you boost the engine much beyond the OE spec.
>
> Stick to Audis- at least with the latest 40/60 torque split quattros and
> the efficiency of the 2.0T and 3.0T engines, there is quite a decent
> product to consider. 8-speed auto improves fuel efficiency tremendously and
> the A5/S5 twins are some of the best looking coupes that you can buy for
> reasonable money. The latest chassis A6/A7 is also a phenomenal car with
> the 3.0T, yielding impressive mileage figures while posting decent
> performance as well. The only thing that Audi has really dropped the ball
> on are the lack of manual transmissions all over the line as well as lack
> of real LSDs in the diffs.
>
> If you think that dropping the ethanol subsidy will increase diesel sales
> in the US, you have a pretty poor grasp of the energy market.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Scott Justusson <qshipq at aol.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >  Move on Chicagoans, nothing to see here.  Funny stuff when reaching
> > beyond the walls of one's comfort zone, into the world of S car
> > competition.  The v70R just doesn't come to my mind, as driveline
> failures
> > of the 01E are pretty much non-existent, so that's a tough nut to
> purposely
> > acquire....  I suppose you could argue that O1E 1st gear is an issue,
> but I
> > know many S car drivers that have been driving with that whine (excuse
> the
> > pun) for over 100k miles without failure.  Having owned a GLH turbo, I
> > could almost forgive the R turning radius of a tandem axle truck, but 30
> > years later, that as an issue seems to bring a significant chuckle.
> >
> > I found the 6 speed to be good and well matched, the engine and brakes
> > awesome in the R as well.  I too find the suspension somehow 'lost' in
> it's
> > purpose or intent.  IME with yumps and haldex uncoupled, 'composed'
> isn't a
> > word that comes to mind.  The S car may be "Miss Piggy in heels" (tm-me),
> > but she stands well balanced in those heels in all types of
> weather/roads.
> >
> > I have driven many of the Allroads, brokered a few, almost pulled the
> > trigger on one, but just didn't get the air suspension.  The 6speed and
> the
> > 2.7tt engine didn't feel well matched, something maybe more hp would
> solve.
> >  It didn't help either that I was in process of working an AllRoad and a
> > 535xi wagon at the same time.  To the v10tdi, I put on this forum a few
> > years ago too,  if you haven't driven one, you have lost a perspective of
> > what massive torque can do to the soul of a bread and butter SUV.  And
> > knocking back Scar-like mileage on road trips to boot.  I had almost 3
> > weeks with one I brokered last year, and you got to the point where you
> > would just race anything next to you for sport.  The looks on the faces
> of
> > those not tuned to the tiny rear corner badge?  Priceless.
> >
> > Many years ago, on these very forums, I predicted once BMW got a firm
> > grasp on the AWD concept, Audi would be in a pickle.  That time has come
> a
> > couple years ago.  We can all argue about CAN bus, too many computers to
> > break, etc, but at the end of the day, we will all get dragged into that
> > world, as that's our collective future.  The 'other' good news is without
> > the ethynol subsidy, we might even get to drive some darn right awesome
> > diesel offerings from VAG and BMW.  Having spent significant time in
> both,
> > I likes!
> >
> > In the meantime, whatever your 'price' point, driving the BMW series
> > avants, sure makes me think that someone got the evolution of the Scar
> > avant down much better than the originator.
> >
> > Cheers all
> >
> > Scott J
> > A couple of 20vt engines...   none in S cars
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mtgadbois <mtgadbois at aol.com>
> > To: s-car-list <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> > Sent: Sun, Jan 22, 2012 9:53 pm
> > Subject: Re: [s-cars] Volvo V70 R Wagon (NAC)
> >
> >
> >      Does this mean flame on!!  I haven't seen such good stuff since the
> > discussion on Andouillette sausage!!
> >
> > Alright,
> >
> > Mark near Chicago
> >
> >
> >
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