[s-cars] Stripped wheel bolt

[Tom Green]

Chris,

Are you sure it wasn't a Daewoo Lemans??  The name "Grand" had no  
place on that vehicle.  : )  Or, at least, some loose chinese bolts?   
If your analysis is correct that they failed in shear, I would take  
that as a signal to check all the other wheel bolts.

Tom

On Mar 26, 2012, at 1:21 PM, chris chambers wrote:

> Tom,
>
> I was missing a lug on a 1975 Pontiac Grand Lemans, turned right and  
> the other 4 lugs sheared off.
>
> I vote to fix it right ....... when bad things happen the results  
> aren't fun.
>
>
> Chris
>
>
> From: Tom Green <trgreen at comcast.net>
> To: s-car-list at audifans.com
> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 11:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Stripped wheel bolt
>
> That's good advice as always, Scott, but I see no reason to  
> shout.  : )  I am confident that the 4 remaining good bolts and hub- 
> centric wheel installation will remain with the vehicle if properly  
> installed;  And, if not, 5 bolts will be little better.
>
> I expect that Lee will abandon any thoughts of completing this  
> repair once he finds the price of the repair kit necessary for a DIY  
> job, and he doesn't use the kind of hack shop that might do this  
> sort of thing either.  I think we will see Lee chase the threads  
> with a tap and then after removing the oil, evaluate whether the  
> repair is successful, and in the future, attempt to monitor any tire/ 
> wheel work to ensure monkey boy doesn't start the bolts and run them  
> in with one shot of the impact wrench/torque stick while lowering  
> the car with the other hand.  : )
>
> This kind of problem can happen anytime someone gets in a hurry .   
> NE is not kind to wheel and suspension parts, so always take the  
> time to clean up the wheel bolts when you have a wheel off, Lee.
>
> Tom '95 S6
>         '95.5 S6 avant
> Knoxville, TN
>
> On Monday March 26, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Scott Justusson  
> <qshipq at aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Ok, I'll jump in from the back of the class.... DO NOT TIMESERT OR  
> HELICOIL WHEEL HUBS....  That's the craziest thing I've read here in  
> a while.  If the thread is damaged enough to require more attention  
> than a tap thread chase, it's time to replace the hub.  I can't  
> think of a shop that would even consider thread-repairing a hub with  
> an insert, for good reason.  Accepting liability for that repair  
> failing is plain negligence.  Further, my concern would be a insert  
> coming out with a wheel bolt, destroying the wheel before you  
> realized what happened.
> >
> > Neither works better for this application, it's just the wrong  
> application.  When that DIY hack fails as the wheel passes you on  
> the highway, expect the consequential liability to be all yours.
> >
> > My .02
> >
> > Scott J
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Cody Forbes <cody at 5000tq.com>
> > To: Taka Mizutani <t44tqtro at gmail.com>
> > Cc: mtgadbois <mtgadbois at aol.com>; s-car-list <s-car-list at audifans.com 
> >
> > Sent: Sat, Mar 24, 2012 6:51 pm
> > Subject: Re: [s-cars] Stripped wheel bolt
> >
> >
> > Since a time-cert locks in place by expanding the bottom thread or  
> two I can't
> > be certain it will work in the shallow environment of a hub. Check  
> depth of the
> > hub and timecert before use.
> >
> > -Cody
> > (Sent from my phone, if a word doesn't fit blame Siri)
> >
> > On Mar 24, 2012, at 7:21 PM, Taka Mizutani <t44tqtro at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
> >
> >> Time-sert, not helicoil- they work better
> >> On Mar 24, 2012 7:02 PM, "Larry" <larrycleung at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Lee,
> >>>
> >>> I'm on the tap brigade as well. Nothing to lose (besides, having  
> that tap
> >>> is a useful thing anyway). Just use a fresh lug bolt  
> afterwards.  And, when
> >>> starting the tap, gently turn backwards until you feel the the  
> first tap
> >>> threads drop into the hub threads. Then start feeding the tap  
> forwards, 1/2
> >>> turn at a time, backing  slightly after each half turn. Oil will  
> work
> >>> (thinner is better, you want it to flush cuttings)  cutting oil  
> cleans up
> >>> easier, that's all. This worked for me most times sine HS for  
> most bolts,
> >>> including for my former Solo 2 GTi's lug holes. If worse comes  
> to worst,
> >>> then there is still TimeSert or HeliCoil.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> All from HS shop class, and yet they're killing those programs  
> everywhere..
> >>> Doesn't make sense to me.
>
>
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