[s-cars] Stripped wheel bolt

[chris chambers]

Tom,
 
Let's see I owned this car some 25 years ago ... yeah it's not around any more.
The point was that 4 bolts do not do the job of 5 and can fail.
 
Later tater
 
Chris
 
 
 
 


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>From: Tom Green <trgreen at comcast.net>
>To: chris chambers <fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com> 
>Cc: "s-car-list at audifans.com" <s-car-list at audifans.com> 
>Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 2:00 PM
>Subject: Re: [s-cars] Stripped wheel bolt
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>Chris, 
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>Are you sure it wasn't a Daewoo Lemans??  The name "Grand" had no place on that vehicle.  : )  Or, at least, some loose chinese bolts?  If your analysis is correct that they failed in shear, I would take that as a signal to check all the other wheel bolts.  
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>Tom
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>On Mar 26, 2012, at 1:21 PM, chris chambers wrote:
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>Tom,
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>>I was missing a lug on a 1975 Pontiac Grand Lemans, turned right and the other 4 lugs sheared off.
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>>I vote to fix it right ....... when bad things happen the results aren't fun.
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>>Chris
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>>>From: Tom Green <trgreen at comcast.net>
>>>To: s-car-list at audifans.com 
>>>Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 11:11 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [s-cars] Stripped wheel bolt
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>>>That's good advice as always, Scott, but I see no reason to shout.  : )  I am confident that the 4 remaining good bolts and hub-centric wheel installation will remain with the vehicle if properly installed;  And, if not, 5 bolts will be little better.
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>>>I expect that Lee will abandon any thoughts of completing this repair once he finds the price of the repair kit necessary for a DIY job, and he doesn't use the kind of hack shop that might do this sort of thing either.  I think we will see Lee chase the threads with a tap and then after removing the oil, evaluate whether the repair is successful, and in the future, attempt to monitor any tire/wheel work to ensure monkey boy doesn't start the bolts and run them in with one shot of the impact wrench/torque stick while lowering the car with the other hand.  : )
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>>>This kind of problem can happen anytime someone gets in a hurry .  NE is not kind to wheel and suspension parts, so always take the time to clean up the wheel bolts when you have a wheel off, Lee.
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>>>Tom '95 S6
>>>        '95.5 S6 avant
>>>Knoxville, TN
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>>>On Monday March 26, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Scott Justusson <qshipq at aol.com> wrote:
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>>>> Ok, I'll jump in from the back of the class.... DO NOT TIMESERT OR HELICOIL WHEEL HUBS....  That's the craziest thing I've read here in a while.  If the thread is damaged enough to require more attention than a tap thread chase, it's time to replace the hub.  I can't think of a shop that would even consider thread-repairing a hub with an insert, for good reason.  Accepting liability for that repair failing is plain negligence.  Further, my concern would be a insert coming out with a wheel bolt, destroying the wheel before you realized what happened.
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>>>> Neither works better for this application, it's just the wrong application.  When that DIY hack fails as the wheel passes you on the highway, expect the consequential liability to be all yours.
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>>>> My .02
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>>>> Scott J
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>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Cody Forbes <cody at 5000tq.com>
>>>> To: Taka Mizutani <t44tqtro at gmail.com>
>>>> Cc: mtgadbois <mtgadbois at aol.com>; s-car-list <s-car-list at audifans.com>
>>>> Sent: Sat, Mar 24, 2012 6:51 pm
>>>> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Stripped wheel bolt
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>>>> Since a time-cert locks in place by expanding the bottom thread or two I can't
>>>> be certain it will work in the shallow environment of a hub. Check depth of the
>>>> hub and timecert before use.
>>>> 
>>>> -Cody
>>>> (Sent from my phone, if a word doesn't fit blame Siri)
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>>>> On Mar 24, 2012, at 7:21 PM, Taka Mizutani <t44tqtro at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>> Time-sert, not helicoil- they work better
>>>>> On Mar 24, 2012 7:02 PM, "Larry" <larrycleung at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>>> Lee,
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>>>>>> I'm on the tap brigade as well. Nothing to lose (besides, having that tap
>>>>>> is a useful thing anyway). Just use a fresh lug bolt afterwards.  And, when
>>>>>> starting the tap, gently turn backwards until you feel the the first tap
>>>>>> threads drop into the hub threads. Then start feeding the tap forwards, 1/2
>>>>>> turn at a time, backing  slightly after each half turn. Oil will work
>>>>>> (thinner is better, you want it to flush cuttings)  cutting oil cleans up
>>>>>> easier, that's all. This worked for me most times sine HS for most bolts,
>>>>>> including for my former Solo 2 GTi's lug holes. If worse comes to worst,
>>>>>> then there is still TimeSert or HeliCoil.
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>>>>>> All from HS shop class, and yet they're killing those programs everywhere..
>>>>>> Doesn't make sense to me.
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